Sexed semen Cogent v Genus

[organicguy]

Has anyone used Cogent sexed or 4M at the same time as Genus sexcel and can make a fair comparison on conception rates?
About to order semen and would like info to negotiate with and get numbers right.

Thanks

OG

 

[TomB]

Have so far got on well with cogent. Roughly 50% on cows. Some poor reports of genus sexed locally.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Does it still get carted around Cheshire in an AI flask taxi? At one time Cogent were doing the sexing for other companies.

 

[Treg]

As @Princess Pooper has just said Cogent do Genus's sexing.

 

[sidjon]

As @Princess Pooper has just said Cogent do Genus's sexing.

Think you'll find Genus do their own, we've use Cogent with good results and after seeing some results from a mate who is using the genus stuff, I would be giving it a wide berth.

 

[Fergieman]

As @Princess Pooper has just said Cogent do Genus's sexing.

Not anymore.

 

[Treg]

Think you'll find Genus do their own, we've use Cogent with good results and after seeing some results from a mate who is using the genus stuff, I would be giving it a wide berth.

Not anymore.

Ok my info must be out of date

 

[dairydurham]

We have found that there is more variation in conception rates between bulls rather than who has sorted the semen

 

[organicguy]

We have found that there is more variation in conception rates between bulls rather than who has sorted the semen

How much variation?
Last year we had better conception from Cogent sexed than we did with their or genus beef bulls!

 

[dairydurham]

Hefs v cows ?

 

[organicguy]

Hefs v cows ?

No, all heifers served with our own friesian bulls.
Mainly first service v subsequent, but not normally a problem to such an extent.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Have you used cogent sexed in the past?

 

[sidjon]

No, all heifers served with our own friesian bulls.
Mainly first service v subsequent, but not normally a problem to such an extent.

Have you had any of the straws checked for fertility? Guessing with the increased use of sexed, there maybe a drop in quality , and don't think the genus stuff has as many live swimmers, as I couldn't get a straight answer from the rep who was trying to flog it.

 

[Rossymons]

Save your time, money and stress and just go for the 4M. You won't regret it.

 

[organicguy]

I have used 2M and 4M both with very good results but am not excited about the Cogent british friesian bulls.

Just realised I put this on the wrong section, if anyone can move it to dairy that would be great!

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

I have used 2M and 4M both with very good results but am not excited about the Cogent british friesian bulls.

Just realised I put this on the wrong section, if anyone can move it to dairy that would be great!

Try some of each and see how you get on.

 

[___\0/___]

We use both and have decent results with both. Only time we have had a problem is with a couple of cogent bulls that none of the straws worked, not sure where the problem was but as a result buy a selection of bulls in small batches.

 

[Dave79]

I’ve used both and an getting 51 to 54% on cows across different bulls. My problem is the silly contract cogent want you to sign for the privilege of buying some of their bulls!

 

[Rossymons]

I’ve used both and an getting 51 to 54% on cows across different bulls. My problem is the silly contract cogent want you to sign for the privilege of buying some of their bulls!

Which is?

 

[Dave79]

You spend good money on sexed semen, and for the privilege, having bred your best cows to it, all the resulting progeny are theirs if they want them, for a modest fee. You have no refusal. I couldn’t believe what I was reading! I told them I wouldn’t sign it even if I got the semen for free.