Shared access road, house owner wants to buy my half. Price?.

[Scholsey]

Apply for planning for something on that ground which he would surely object to, even if just a straw barn or small cattle shed for ‘winter housing’ get the planning through before selling anything.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

 

[Happy]

Road is probably 200 yards. His house at the end of it my gate about half way down in to 30 acre. Only use it afew times a year as those gate in to my fields. Probably need to talk to galbraiths or someone like that. Should be worth more than a grand as that's nothing these days

Will be over a grand for Galbraiths to provide you with a valuation report.
Where are you even getting the figure of a grand from?
If that’s what he’s mentioned on first enquiry I wouldn’t even entertain him from that point onwards. Cheeky sod.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Impossible to say as there's too many unknowns! The important thing is to remember that you only get to sell it once & you can bet your boots that if you were trying to buy access to your land from the homeowner that it wouldn't come cheap!

 

[Still Farming]

What's house worth?
How long they been there?
Are they planning to sell??

 

[Skintagain]

My neighbour experience is that the good ones are good and the others are barstewards no matter what you do

True but giving them a right to not use the track is just setting the seed for land and access dispute imo

 

[homefarm]

There are good ones…?!

We have a lot of neighbours farming on the urban fringe most are good if you can ignore a few grass clipping over the fence. Some are friends as well.

One vindictive sod made our lives a misery for many years, we never did find out what we did to upset him originally, even continued after he moved away only death stopped him.
He does make it difficult to remember the magority have no real malice.

 

[essexpete]

Sorry to butt in on the OP, but if a track is owned by one landowner but one sole house has a ROW over said track as their only vehicular route to that house, can the householder maintain the track and add material for maintenance without too much fuss. Presumably it would be courtesy to notify the landowner but could the landowner stop the householder for reasonable maintenance?

 

[essexpete]

To the OP: If, in the future, the 30 acres accessed from the joint ownership track were to change use or to be sold, how would the alternative access affect the 30 acres or the remain holding if the access was from the latter. Do either parties have restrictions noted on deeds as to the use of the track?

 

[lloyd]

Sorry to butt in on the OP, but if a track is owned by one landowner but one sole house has a ROW over said track as their only vehicular route to that house, can the householder maintain the track and add material for maintenance without too much fuss. Presumably it would be courtesy to notify the landowner but could the landowner stop the householder for reasonable maintenance?

What is there at the moment?

 

[essexpete]

What is there at the moment?

A very poor track that has had nothing substantial done to it 40 years. Looks like gravel/hardcore base.

 

[Optimus]

As above. Guy with fancy House that me and him have shared access, me to fields him to house. That's on title deeds so what is it worth ? I can get to fields another way. Doesn't want me using the road . Is it worth a grand ? Long road.

Even if you sold your half to him. I think you'll still have a right to access. he'll just own the road.
Personally I wouldn't sell it.if you ever sold any of the land for development you can split your access once ( I think)

 

[DeeGee]

Road is probably 200 yards. His house at the end of it my gate about half way down in to 30 acre. Only use it afew times a year as those gate in to my fields. Probably need to talk to galbraiths or someone like that. Should be worth more than a grand as that's nothing these days

Don’t sell it now!
Let him stew on it.
if he really wants it and offers silly money in a year or two then consider it, but always retain your access. Don’t ever sign that away.

 

[lloyd]

A very poor track that has had nothing substantial done to it 40 years. Looks like gravel/hardcore base.

Sounds like something was initially done years earlier so more than just
a mud headland right of way .Like you suggest a meeting of both
parties would be the correct way forward.

 

[essexpete]

Sounds like something was initially done so more than just
a mud headland right of way .Like you suggest a meeting of both
parties would be the correct way forward.

Yes not just a field headland, a proper track was created at some point, when the house was sold off at a guess. It is still OK for 4x4s but a problem for cars, particularly in wet weather. To my mind any cost needs to be 100% householder as they are the only party to use it.

 

[Optimus]

We bought a farm , it was a fields depth to the main road.there was just the neighbour an us used it.found out nobody owned the lane.
Applied to the crown for ownership, had to wait 10 years uncontested to be ours.shortly after we got it neighbour came to us said he'd got planning for 4 house's.an thought they were going to use our lane for access to them all.had to build a new access to the main road for 3 of them.

 

[lloyd]

Yes not just a field headland, a proper track was created at some point, when the house was sold off at a guess. It is still OK for 4x4s but a problem for cars, particularly in wet weather. To my mind any cost needs to be 100% householder as they are the only party to use it.

Totally agree but be careful it does not effect your agricultural use ie
disturb drainage ,increase water run off or ever creep into your field.

 

[essexpete]

Totally agree but be careful it does not effect your agricultural use ie
disturb drainage ,increase water run off or ever creep into your field.

I am neither party but asking for the householder.

 

[lloyd]

I am neither party but asking for the householder.

I know someone about to sell a derelict house (ruin)with a mud headland
agricultural r.o.w path .It will be interesting how it's to be marketed.

 

[Courier]

I was offered £40k to sign away an access into 40 acres that we can get to from the other side. But we live at this side.
It's only £1k an acre. Get lost.

It reduces the potential buyers when you want to sell it.
How many acres does it access?
Get his house valued with a shared access and not.
Get your land valued with access over both sides and not.

And get the “neighbour” to commit to paying for any valuers and legal costs before you go any further…