Sinking ship?

[Ball acre]

RNZ: Hollywood director James Cameron's enviro-farm turns to dairy cow grazing.

Hollywood director James Cameron's enviro-farm turns to dairy cow grazing

James Cameron's plans to convert his Wairarapa properties into organic veggie farms appear to have fallen short - with hundreds of cows now understood to be grazing in his paddocks.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[Drillman]

Oh, that’s a disapointment, I looked at this thinking it was another RT thread,

 

[glasshouse]

Morons

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Bullshìt artists, both of them.

 

[teslacoils]

Lol. Talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Just buy the Mrs some diamonds - don't but a farm and go all yogurt-knitting to get some action.

 

[vantage]

Ther obviously a simple explanation. Those darned kiwi dairy farmers have helped themselves to a bit of free grazing on the sly!

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Now now, there is money to be made here for someone. A fool and his money are easily parted.

 

[The Ruminant]

As we know, the cow isn’t the problem:

Where does the carbon come from, that the cow emits (both as CH4, ie methane, and as CO2, ie carbon dioxide)? Obviously the answer is from the forage that it eats.

Where does the forage get its carbon? From the carbon dioxide in the air, as it photosynthesises.

Where does the air get its carbon dioxide from? From the breath and emissions of humans and other living creatures.

Methane breaks down to carbon dioxide in about ten years which means the methane cows are emitting now is simply replacing the stuff from ten years ago. It’s like filling a bucket with a hole in it with water. The amount of water in the bucket (ie the atmosphere) stays the same if the water flowing in (methane emissions from cattle) is at the same rate as the water flowing out (methane breakdown to carbon dioxide).

This is why it is called the “carbon cycle”. No new carbon is added to the atmosphere.

There were as many enteric-fermenting (ie methane-emitting) animals on the earth 100m years ago as there are today. They play a vital role in cycling the carbon that plants capture, and this cycling is essential to life on earth.

“New” carbon comes from fossil fuels. We dig up and extract billions of tonnes every year and pump it into the atmosphere. Maybe James Cameron has realised this.

 

[Wolds Beef]

@The Ruminant A very well thought out and explained piece. Why could we not see this in the main stream media to take the heat of Livestock Farming!!
WB

 

[Bob the beef]

As we know, the cow isn’t the problem:

Where does the carbon come from, that the cow emits (both as CH4, ie methane, and as CO2, ie carbon dioxide)? Obviously the answer is from the forage that it eats.

Where does the forage get its carbon? From the carbon dioxide in the air, as it photosynthesises.

Where does the air get its carbon dioxide from? From the breath and emissions of humans and other living creatures.

Methane breaks down to carbon dioxide in about ten years which means the methane cows are emitting now is simply replacing the stuff from ten years ago. It’s like filling a bucket with a hole in it with water. The amount of water in the bucket (ie the atmosphere) stays the same if the water flowing in (methane emissions from cattle) is at the same rate as the water flowing out (methane breakdown to carbon dioxide).

This is why it is called the “carbon cycle”. No new carbon is added to the atmosphere.

There were as many enteric-fermenting (ie methane-emitting) animals on the earth 100m years ago as there are today. They play a vital role in cycling the carbon that plants capture, and this cycling is essential to life on earth.

“New” carbon comes from fossil fuels. We dig up and extract billions of tonnes every year and pump it into the atmosphere. Maybe James Cameron has realised this.

Can you cut and paste and send over to Blue Peter. Might help them with their stated intention of educating the next generation

 

[The Ruminant]

@The Ruminant A very well thought out and explained piece. Why could we not see this in the main stream media to take the heat of Livestock Farming!!
WB

I regularly paste similar in the comments section of The Times, under cow-bashing articles. It generally gets dozens of likes etc but it’s not quite up there in the main newspaper. Maybe I should write to Clarkson and he can do an article based on it for the Sunday Times Magazine - that would reach the masses!

 

[unlacedgecko]

I regularly paste similar in the comments section of The Times, under cow-bashing articles. It generally gets dozens of likes etc but it’s not quite up there in the main newspaper. Maybe I should write to Clarkson and he can do an article based on it for the Sunday Times Magazine - that would reach the masses!

Please do

 

[Wolds Beef]

Please do echoed!
WB

 

[Ffermer Bach]

The bit that intrigued me, in the article, was that a lot of the neighbours had signed non disclosure agreements, what is going on there? Very strange!

 

[unlacedgecko]

The bit that intrigued me, in the article, was that a lot of the neighbours had signed non disclosure agreements, what is going on there? Very strange!

Standard rich people sh!t.

 

[kiwi pom]

Standard rich people sh!t.

Wonder how much he had to bung them to sign one of them?

 

[onesiedale]

I regularly paste similar in the comments section of The Times, under cow-bashing articles. It generally gets dozens of likes etc but it’s not quite up there in the main newspaper. Maybe I should write to Clarkson and he can do an article based on it for the Sunday Times Magazine - that would reach the masses!

Clarkson would just love material like that to use! It has that common sense irony about it which is so bleedin' obvious that he is probably one of the best positioned people to get the message heard.
On the back of that, he is the sort of person to set up a beef herd just to prove a point . ... and tell everyone about it too!

 

[texelburger]

As we know, the cow isn’t the problem:

Where does the carbon come from, that the cow emits (both as CH4, ie methane, and as CO2, ie carbon dioxide)? Obviously the answer is from the forage that it eats.

Where does the forage get its carbon? From the carbon dioxide in the air, as it photosynthesises.

Where does the air get its carbon dioxide from? From the breath and emissions of humans and other living creatures.

Methane breaks down to carbon dioxide in about ten years which means the methane cows are emitting now is simply replacing the stuff from ten years ago. It’s like filling a bucket with a hole in it with water. The amount of water in the bucket (ie the atmosphere) stays the same if the water flowing in (methane emissions from cattle) is at the same rate as the water flowing out (methane breakdown to carbon dioxide).

This is why it is called the “carbon cycle”. No new carbon is added to the atmosphere.

There were as many enteric-fermenting (ie methane-emitting) animals on the earth 100m years ago as there are today. They play a vital role in cycling the carbon that plants capture, and this cycling is essential to life on earth.

“New” carbon comes from fossil fuels. We dig up and extract billions of tonnes every year and pump it into the atmosphere. Maybe James Cameron has realised this.

Well summed up and presented.I just don't understand why the environmentalists don't see it this way,I think they all have their own agendas.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Well summed up and presented.I just don't understand why the environmentalists don't see it this way,I think they all have their own agendas.

If us simple sons of the soil can work it out, one would think others concerned with the 'environment' would be able to!

 

[JJT]

If us simple sons of the soil can work it out, one would think others concerned with the 'environment' would be able to!

I think they can, it's not the environment, it's getting rid of animal agriculture that is their main objective. Just look at all the cherry picked studies and misinterpreted data they use, surely they must know it's rubbish and misleading.