solar panels & battery storage

[Still Farming]

Stick pre pay card meters in that will cool them up.

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

Go on then, give us an idea of what an average cleaning system may cost roughly...

How many panels are you looking at ?

 

[akaPABLO01]

How many panels are you looking at ?

1000
750

Rooftop with lanyard cables

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

1000
750

Rooftop with lanyard cables

If you get enough rain every year and the location of the solar panels is not particularly prone to dust etc, then, the COATING ONLY will be sufficient for you.

However, if the panels get dirty very quickly due to one reason or the other e.g. lack of enough rainfall, lots of dust in the atmosphere , high vehicle emissions in the area etc, then, to get the best from our maintenance system in such conditions, we would advise that you do the ( COATING + SPRINKLER SYSTEM ) - this is obviously the ultimate package.

FOR 750 AND 1000 PANELS, PLEASE SEE BELOW. ESTIMATED AND EX VAT.

(A) COATING ONLY - Around £20 per panel. You will definitely notice the difference.
(B) SPRINKLER ONLY - Around £20 per panel.
(C) COATING + SPRINKLER - Around £35 per panel. Around £5 discount per panel.
(D) If COATING ONLY is done first, and then, you decide to add the sprinklers at a later date - then, the sprinkler installation will be charged at the discounted rate of around £15 per panel, costing you around £35 in total with the COATING.

By simply emailing us some basic details like (Name, Pictures of the PV panels and the Address ) we would be able to give a MORE SPECIFIC QUOTE and also advise on which of the packages will be most suitable for you.

We also have a SIGNED ENGINEERING REPORT on the COATING that might be of interest to you. Should you be interested in seeing a copy, please indicate this in your email message.

Thank you.

 

[akaPABLO01]

You’re way off

Forget the gypsy magic spray coat I pay about £1.30 at most /panel

 

[Doing it for the kids]

You guys are insane with those prices, @Exfarmer how long would the above costs take to pay back on your systems!?

 

[Exfarmer]

I dare not look at my panels at the moment they are so dusty. Really think they could do with something. Not sure this is the way forward though I am afraid at those prices.
Not sure how you could retrofit a sprinkler system anyway.
The other big question in a hard water area as ours is what would be the long term affect of the build up of calcium carbonate.
I would be happy to provide a roof for them to demonstrate their technology

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

RESPONSE TO ALL CONCERNS.

(1) COST.

Many times, it is just enough to do the COATING ONLY - as long as you get enough rainfall yearly. Sometimes also, we could suggest that you install the SPRINKLERS ONLY - it all depends on individual circumstances. Obviously, combining the 2 systems will give always give the best result.

(2) LIME-SCALE FROM HARD WATER AREAS.

The water that will be used to rinse the panels will go through a water softening system. In order to reduce cost, a “rain recycling harvester” channelled from the gutter-line to a reservoir tank will be incorporated into the system. The tank must hold at least enough water for 4 rinsing sessions. The rain will always too-up the tank and so, the filtration system will hardly be used, saving you lots of money on running costs.

(3) TESTING OUR TECHNOLOGY ON A ROOF.

First, we say a big thank you to ex-farmer for a fantastic offer. We accept the offer. If ex-farmer would email us ( Address and the picture of the Panels ), we would work out a plan to demonstrate our technology for all to see.

Looking forward.

 

[Exfarmer]

Nanotreat, i have tried to make a conversation but unfortunately get nessage, your in box is full.
I believe this is because you are a new member,.
I suspect I can discover a contact through google, however before I do I need to clear it with the owner of the site. Due to harvest pressure he is not the easiest to have a conversation with.
However if you care to drop me a message on my in box I believe we can take this further

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Please keep us posted @Exfarmer

 

[tommyurray]

hello folks ,
any thoughts or experiences on solar panels with battery storage , have a holiday let that using alot of power .

thanks quavers

We have one of the old dial meters that runs both ways have had to turn down better prices on electricity because new company wanted to put in a digital meter which would have made me a LOT worse off

 

[Exfarmer]

We have one of the old dial meters that runs both ways have had to turn down better prices on electricity because new company wanted to put in a digital meter which would have made me a LOT worse off

I would suggest that you should not shout about this as it is fraud. I hope you have written to your supplier explaining your concerns .
I did, it took 3 years for them to change it! Only after it became an impossible situation after a long holiday and the meter was so far behind its previous reading . I had a bill for many thousand pounds as the supplier thought the meter had gone right round the clock.
Luckily they agreed I could not have used so much and changed the meter to digital. I had covered myself with regular letters about the situation, as in my occupation I must have been well aware of what was going on
I do have 8 kilowatt on my house

 

[akaPABLO01]

I would suggest that you should not shout about this as it is fraud. I hope you have written to your supplier explaining your concerns .
I did, it took 3 years for them to change it! Only after it became an impossible situation after a long holiday and the meter was so far behind its previous reading . I had a bill for many thousand pounds as the supplier thought the meter had gone right round the clock.
Luckily they agreed I could not have used so much and changed the meter to digital. I had covered myself with regular letters about the situation, as in my occupation I must have been well aware of what was going on
I do have 8 kilowatt on my house

Yup very illegal but they’ll force a change eventually

 

[Exfarmer]

An update to my offer to Nanotreat.
He has offered to install a relatively small system on one of my sheds.
To be fair to him i think it was a fair offer and it does need to be able to compare treated and untreated.
However I am not sure how we can easily isolate a small section of panels to monitor just that area. We are not helped as cables are all bundled etc.
I am not certain how to get round the conundrum. I feel perhaps some one with a standalone array, although not needing such system so much , would be a lot better site for such a demonstration, as cabling a few though a couple of meters should be fairly simple I believe.
I do personally believe that their are certainly, potential rewards for regular cleaning of panels as we have seen a marked improvement in output after last weekends thunderstorms.
Perhaps there is someone on here with a standalone or other system who may think they fit the bill

 

[wasted years]

I am looking at putting a new cattle building up and would like to consider solar , I have an import/export meter if we wanted to go largish for my generator.
Would the company be interested in something larger?

 

[quavers]

hello folks , had a visit from energy consultant yesterday , he is suggesting a air source heat pump for the heating and solar panels of 30 to 50kw but not to bother with battery storage at this point . Getting a break down of figs. later on in the week from him showing costings and savings .

 

[quavers]

We have one of the old dial meters that runs both ways have had to turn down better prices on electricity because new company wanted to put in a digital meter which would have made me a LOT worse off

neighbour has same old style meter , always makes sure that he uses enough elec. to make sure he has a bill to pay. will tell him to say hello if you both land in jail

 

[Exfarmer]

hello folks , had a visit from energy consultant yesterday , he is suggesting a air source heat pump for the heating and solar panels of 30 to 50kw but not to bother with battery storage at this point . Getting a break down of figs. later on in the week from him showing costings and savings .

The combination of solar panels and heat pumps is great for running swimming pools in the summer, I do it.
However my experience of heat pumps is they are useless in winter, they spend more time defrosting than actual heating and I suspect the actual ratio falls to no more than 1 unit of heat per unit of energy put in.
They do work in areas where the relative humidity is low but that does not happen in the UK very often.
If you are putting in solar today, it is crucial you can use all the power, otherwise the returns are just not there. Unless you run a. Cold store this is unlikely in the summer, when you will be generating probaly over 80% of your power in your partof the world. Even with 50kw installed there will be many days when production will be in single figures and with snow zero

 

[Spuddler]

You guys are insane with those prices, @Exfarmer how long would the above costs take to pay back on your systems!?

I clean about 300 megawatts a year works out at about 30 pence a panel

 

[NANOTREAT.co.uk]

I clean about 300 megawatts a year works out at about 30 pence a panel

If your panels are on a site where they get dirty very quickly e.g. within 1 week of cleaning them, the benefit of cleaning them is lost within 1 week. You will probably clean them every 6 months in this case. The panels will be producing at a low percentage, for the next 5 months and 3 weeks, before the next clean.

In this case, you will be producing so low, that installing a full maintenance system ( SPRINKLER + COATING ) will be best for you. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOUR PANELS PRODUCING AT OPTIMUM, 365 DAYS IN A YEAR. COATING cleans panels DAILY, and the sprinkler in this case, will run, every 2 to 3 days perhaps. Recycling the water will take care of any waste. Running cost will be almost zero.

However, if your panels are on a site where, they get dirty but not so quickly. Say around 1 or 2 months after cleaning them. As long as you get enough rainfall in a year, THE COATING ONLY will be enough, as the rain will be doing the job of the sprinkler for you. Once the coating is applied, it will clean the panel surface DAILY, and act as a barrier, shielding it from the ELEMENTS, and so, when it rains on them, the rain WILL NOT BE CLEANING THE PANEL, IT WILL ONLY BE RINSING THE PANEL. And so, the rain and even the wind will be helping to clean the panels, resulting in CLEANER PANELS FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. The coating can last for the lifetime of the panels and WE GIVE YOU A 10-YEAR WARRANTY. We ( CLEAN, POLISH AND COAT ) the panels so good that they will look shinier than the day they were installed.

The patented product that we use has an engineering report done in California - proving the benefits. Kindly Inbox me your email, if you want to see a copy.

Usually in the UK, the COATING ONLY is enough for the panels except on the rare occasions that i mentioned earlier.

And so, we suggest that you explore the option of COATING ONLY your panels. The prices are usually for COMMERCIAL INSTALLS at £20 a panel but depending on how easy it is to access your panels, and how many panels we are talking about, we can go down a bit on the price.

YOU CAN DO A FEW SOLAR PANELS FOR NOW, observe the BEFORE AND AFTER production yourself, and make your own judgement.

Looking forward to giving you a quote for the coating of your solar panels - if you inbox me full details.