Spraying off peas and beans pre wheat drilling

[farmer steve]

Will glyphosate on its own kill volunteer peas ok? I know beans seem to take some killing due to waxy leaves. What do other on here add to get a better kill for beans?

 

[Flat 10]

I suspect the only legal option is kyleo.

 

[ih1455xl]

Does it matter if some grow on it's all free n and a bit diversity frost would sort a few out

 

[SilliamWhale]

Does it matter if some grow on it's all free n and a bit diversity frost would sort a few out

Pre-em would knock them or the early spring herbicide. don't worry about it

 

[farmer steve]

Peas are getting quite big as ground has been worked for sometime. Next thing in will be the drill after the sprayer. Don't want the peas to get any bigger else they will bung up in front of the tine drill. Yes often end up taking winter beans out with a spring herbicide.

 

[deleted user 837354]

LI700 or validate in the tank with the round up will get them. Volunteer beans can be cleaned out of wheat quite readily with cyclops in the autumn or a bit of CMPP in the spring.

 

[juke]

Volunteer beans are a good companion to your wheat , better leaving them alone till the spring aslong as it's not a ridiculous amount.

 

[Clive]

Never had an issue just using 3 L per hectare Glyphosate seems to work just fine

if it doesn’t it’s not hard to take them out of the wheat

 

[deleted user 837354]

Volunteer beans are a good companion to your wheat , better leaving them alone till the spring aslong as it's not a ridiculous amount.

Trouble is they can get big and start shading out grass weeds below. Same as charlock. Grows like a plague all winter and hides blackgrass and the like under it. Then you come along in the spring, hit it with your expensive broadway star and wonder why there is brome everywhere. Not only that but allowing BLWs to get bigger and then relying on SU chemistry again and again and again is how you get resistance.

If someone is running through the crop in the autumn post-em anyway, a dash of cyclops or similar is a very modest spend.

 

[juke]

11.94 an acre isn't that expensive for what it brings to the party one year in 3 in terms of palio/ broadway star. the benefits those volunteer beans bring to that crop from a visual and under soil perspective makes any negative minimal in my opinion .. also spraying dff constantly in a direct drilling situation has more negatives to it so id rather keep that to a minimum and use it as a pre em if I was using it which we do.