SSSI Spring Barley herbicides

[Demolition Man]

Hi folks, just been granted consent to plant some spring barley on SSSI. Unfortunately they have refused consent to let me use Ally Max as a herbicide as they deem it toxic to bugs etc. They have asked me to submit application for consent for alternatives. Thought the collective brains on here could come up with a few suggestions. Thanks

 

[Audlem Agron]

I’d approach this another way. Ask them what’s ok to use. If they perceive metsulfuron as a hazard, then don’t hold out any hope.

 

[AndrewM]

Maybe take your example from mid tier css?

AB14: Harvested low input cereal
The following herbicide active ingredients can be used.

• Amidosulfuron
• Clodinafop-propargyl
• Fenoxaprop-P-ethyl
• Pinoxaden
• Tri-allate

Wont cover all weeds spp . Maybe they will allow a contact hormone aswell?

 

[Demolition Man]

The lady has no idea, she just says suggest an alternative. Initially she asked me to take out mircam plus and I said fair enough I’ll just use ally max or equivalent on its own. Next thing she sends out consent but with refusal of both . She wants something that’s not toxic to wetlands

 

[Demolition Man]

Think she looks at the labels and if there are any warnings regarding toxicity/aquatic wildlife then its a no go. Looks like it may be wholecrop cereals, weeds and all

 

[Demolition Man]

Fat hen, Redshank and charlock would be main issue I guess, I can live with the other weeds.

 

[AndrewM]

maybe she doesnt like the "very toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects" warning on the lables.
MCPA and mecoprop-P dont have this warning.

you are probably going to have to consult a paid agronomist, get them to check through thier database for products

 

[Demolition Man]

Just remembered same person gave me permission ti use MCPA in rushes about 6 years ago. Surely if it was ok back then it’ll be ok now? Also seen environment document somewhere saying 2,4 D is ok near watercourses.

 

[Demolition Man]

Ok thanks for replies all . I’ll get back to her with MCPA, 2,4 D and Mecoprop. Cheers