Super nature reserve proposed by NE

[Ted M]

So relatively local to me, Natural England are proposing to increase the size of the current reserve by 5000ha (12,300 ac).
Thoughts please?

Plans for Stiperstones to become 'super' nature reserve

People in the area are being asked to give their thoughts on the project.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[borderterribles]

Local to me too. I sincerely hope the "People" collectively tell NE to FRO!

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Local to me too. I sincerely hope the "People" collectively tell NE to FRO!

But why would anyone.

It sounds wonderful except for the wealthy landowners.

Its all a land grab so the idiotic government can meet the legal obligations they foolishly set themselves.

 

[Jsmith2211]

Who needs food...? The countryside is for people in the city to enjoy, not for those rich farmers to pollute the environment and destroy! All that land should be taken off of the evil farmers and given to the state so that they can restore it to nature and build loads of new footpaths (with good disabled access) so that wayne and waynetta can have a good romp.

In all seriousness, if that will happen or not will depend on the next govornment.. We don't know for sure what their priorities are, but we do know that they wanted to introduce right to roam... so I wouldn't hold much hope for them stopping this.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

So relatively local to me, Natural England are proposing to increase the size of the current reserve by 5000ha (12,300 ac).
Thoughts please?

Plans for Stiperstones to become 'super' nature reserve

People in the area are being asked to give their thoughts on the project.

www.bbc.co.uk

Bloody hell, that's a massive land grab. It would increase the size of the NNR more than ten times over.

 

[Martin Holden]

Who needs food...? The countryside is for people in the city to enjoy, not for those rich farmers to pollute the environment and destroy! All that land should be taken off of the evil farmers and given to the state so that they can restore it to nature and build loads of new footpaths (with good disabled access) so that wayne and waynetta can have a good romp.

In all seriousness, if that will happen or not will depend on the next govornment.. We don't know for sure what their priorities are, but we do know that they wanted to introduce right to roam... so I wouldn't hold much hope for them stopping this.

Would concur with your comments. Next likely Labour administration will do more or less what the current useless mob have been doing. As you said food production isn’t a priority these days. We will all starve as we sit in the rugged unattended countryside unless of course we eat imported food produced to lower standards which is a complet contradiction in terms. We are governed my numpties and that’s being kind!

 

[bluebell]

Who needs food? But others must have seen the generals, sabre rustling, about the potential threat, war in the next 10-20 years with russia, but by then, russia wont have to fight us? They and china will have conquered us? Food will then be academic?

 

[bluebell]

Dosnt anyone else wonder? when driving round where they live locally, like i do, how the same area 70-80 years ago during WW2 and the years after, fed, the people, now looking where i live, the massive population growth, and with that, loss of many thousands of acres of good farmland, and still the wide spread mass development gos on, im talking about my area (south essex), that i know very well, but im sure its the same in many parts of the UK, if we did have a national emergency?crisis, where would food, just for one, come from? Answers please, on a postcard please?

 

[steveR]

Local to me too. I sincerely hope the "People" collectively tell NE to FRO!

Hopefully, some of the farming communities from around the country that have already been affected by similiar, will offer some advice and guidance of the pitfalls of this latest land grab...

 

[Jsmith2211]

Dosnt anyone else wonder? when driving round where they live locally, like i do, how the same area 70-80 years ago during WW2 and the years after, fed, the people, now looking where i live, the massive population growth, and with that, loss of many thousands of acres of good farmland, and still the wide spread mass development gos on, im talking about my area (south essex), that i know very well, but im sure its the same in many parts of the UK, if we did have a national emergency?crisis, where would food, just for one, come from? Answers please, on a postcard please?

Even in WW2 we struggled to feed the country ourselves. We had to import food, and have rationing. There have been massive advancements in yield since then, but also massive population growth and loss of land.. If they think that we might be going to war, they need to push self sufficient food far more. That is partly why we had a butter mountain and a milk lake etc etc, the govornment wanted reserves in case of war. We seem to be going into cold war mk2, could maybe see a return of that sort of policy.

Would concur with your comments. Next likely Labour administration will do more or less what the current useless mob have been doing. As you said food production isn’t a priority these days. We will all starve as we sit in the rugged unattended countryside unless of course we eat imported food produced to lower standards which is a complet contradiction in terms. We are governed my numpties and that’s being kind!

"I want hormone treated beef, its delicious!" Need I say more?

 

[Paddington]

David Cameron, on becoming PM said he would abolish NE, along with other promises which he never achieved. Of course you don't abolish civil servants, they just morph into other departments.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Even in WW2 we struggled to feed the country ourselves. We had to import food, and have rationing. There have been massive advancements in yield since then, but also massive population growth and loss of land.. If they think that we might be going to war, they need to push self sufficient food far more. That is partly why we had a butter mountain and a milk lake etc etc, the govornment wanted reserves in case of war. We seem to be going into cold war mk2, could maybe see a return of that sort of policy.


"I want hormone treated beef, its delicious!" Need I say more?

Was this crop yield data compiled in a British pub?

Crop Yields

Increasing crop yields is crucial to improve food security, living standards, and reduce human impacts on the environment.

ourworldindata.org

The rest of the world might be able to double yields but I think the UK will have plateaued.

 

[Jsmith2211]

Was this crop yield data compiled in a British pub?

Crop Yields

Increasing crop yields is crucial to improve food security, living standards, and reduce human impacts on the environment.

ourworldindata.org

The rest of the world might be able to double yields but I think the UK will have plateaued.

Would be interesting to see the tons overall produced in the country. Might paint a different picture. In the war they ploughed up every bit of land they could possibly plough up. The polar opposite of what they are doing now.

 

[serf]

Not read article CBA but no doubt they'll be a massive enviro payment involved ....

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Not read article CBA but no doubt they'll be a massive enviro payment involved ....

For Natural England.

 

[steveR]

So relatively local to me, Natural England are proposing to increase the size of the current reserve by 5000ha (12,300 ac).
Thoughts please?

Plans for Stiperstones to become 'super' nature reserve

People in the area are being asked to give their thoughts on the project.

www.bbc.co.uk

Please keep us posted on when and where we can respond to the NE campaign.

 

[Ted M]

Apparently there's a drop in session at Snailbeach village hall on Wednesday Feb 7th between 6 and 9 for people to give their views to NE staff

 

[steveR]

Apparently there's a drop in session at Snailbeach village hall on Wednesday Feb 7th between 6 and 9 for people to give their views to NE staff

Mmmmm.

Well the first thing I would want, is the ability for people who are unable to attend, to make their views known.....

Middle of Winter at night, up there....

 

[steveR]

Got a very good friend who stalks deer there, so have sent this on...

Thanks

 

[ajcc]

Sssi not keen on anyone shooting anything. Rabbits,squirrels,foxes,deer included. Super nature reserve likely to seek to curtail all shooting except under special licence.(which we don’t actually ever give out) But nobody can say we actively prevent shooting!