Teachers brainwashing kids on animal rights.(Pigs)

Campani

Member
Just make sure you are sure it is not a lesson in teaching kids the difference between unfounded propoganda and evidence based facts , before steaming in to the heads office on monday morning
Do make sure of this first. Its really important in the world of the internet, that kids are taught about propoganda, and not to believe everything that is written down. Careful not to jump the conclusion, that the teacher wasnt trying to show the rubbish that's out there.


Of course if it turns out the teacher is a raging animal rights fanatic go full steam ahead.
 

franklin

New Member
It's from an Animal Aid resource pack for English teachers.
This is a vegan campaigning group; I wonder how the teacher is balancing the extreme views in this literature with other more balanced views?

Ah. Those wise sages.

This is the tool to use if you get nowhere:

https://parentview.ofsted.gov.uk/

I suspect that, with an requirement to make sure pupils are not developing extremist views, that Animal Aid rubbish should not be in the classroom. OFSTED would take a dim view of teaching resources coming from them and being passed off as fact.
 
Location
West Wales
Do make sure of this first. Its really important in the world of the internet, that kids are taught about propoganda, and not to believe everything that is written down. Careful not to jump the conclusion, that the teacher wasnt trying to show the rubbish that's out there.


Of course if it turns out the teacher is a raging animal rights fanatic go full steam ahead.

Yes but at the age of 11 that is in appropriate to be handing out to children let alone for them to be able to work out that it's not what it all seems. Correct me if I'm wrong here but they would have started in secondary school in September were now march. 5 months to mature from almost being spoon fed into trying to understand that. I don't think so
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
This week my daughter was given this handout sheet as part of an English lesson exercise,year 7.

I personally find it full of disinformation,essentially 'fake news'.

Is it acceptable?

How/who to approach the school?

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Just spoken to daughter this lunchtime and the context of the use of the sheet was to 'summarise 5 key points you have learnt from the sheet'.

This was a homework exercise.

It is a topic covering animal rights which will be covered in the coming lessons.
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Yes,we don't keep pigs and this was only shown to me first thing this morning.

On questioning my daughter this morning about the 'facts' in the piece her reply was 'it must be fact because a teacher gave it me'!!!!!

I think maybe this is more than a parent complaining so I may contact the local NFU and maybe get one of their experts to approach the school.

To put a proper complaint in you have to be up to speed on the 'facts'.

Thanks for all replies.
You would do better asking @Clive or @gone up the hill than the nfu in my experience by the time they get round to it you daughter may have left school
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
This week my daughter was given this handout sheet as part of an English lesson exercise,year 7.

I personally find it full of disinformation,essentially 'fake news'.

Is it acceptable?

How/who to approach the school?

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I'm going to send a link to this post to someone I think might be able to get something done about this on Monday morning

Nothing more than vegan propaganda and schools should know better than that
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I'm going to send a link to this post to someone I think might be able to get something done about this on Monday morning

Nothing more than vegan propaganda and schools should know better than that
When our 2 were in secondary they had a visit planned to a mosque with the RE department no other visits planed to any other denominations, they both went to market that day with me
 

JJT

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Cumbria
Just spoken to daughter this lunchtime and the context of the use of the sheet was to 'summarise 5 key points you have learnt from the sheet'.

This was a homework exercise.

It is a topic covering animal rights which will be covered in the coming lessons.
Well in the mean time, tell your daughter to say the only thing she learnt from the sheet was that you shouldn't believe everything you are told/read!
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
It's as bad as 4 yr olds now being taught sex education at school.
I think the point of that is to inform kids what is OK and what is not. It may seem obvious to you and I but as a 4 year old, when a grown up tells you something is fine, are you going to argue? I actually agree with it if it saves 1 child from the horrors some adults can inflict on them.

Now, back to the OP, if there is a complaint to be made, it might be worth going through the article and pointing out the bits which are factually incorrect for an intensive pig operation. Not just slamming it as vegan nonsense. Which parts of the leaflet can be proved to be wrong? You can't just argue that your opinion is different to the author.
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Just spoken to daughter this lunchtime and the context of the use of the sheet was to 'summarise 5 key points you have learnt from the sheet'.

This was a homework exercise.

It is a topic covering animal rights which will be covered in the coming lessons.

Hmmm it's interesting that it's a homework exercise and therefore presumably expected to be seen by parents. You'd hope that it's being used as part of a critical reasoning exercise and follow up questions might include "Do you believe that the points made are true?" and "What sort of organisation produced this material; what sort of agenda might they have?"
This might account for the fact that it's been doctored slightly from the original; it lacks the headers that might otherwise give away it's source.
 

Cowgirl

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ayrshire
Hmmm it's interesting that it's a homework exercise and therefore presumably expected to be seen by parents. You'd hope that it's being used as part of a critical reasoning exercise and follow up questions might include "Do you believe that the points made are true?" and "What sort of organisation produced this material; what sort of agenda might they have?"
This might account for the fact that it's been doctored slightly from the original; it lacks the headers that might otherwise give away it's source.
Possibly for senior A level or Higher pupils, or for debating, but for Year 7? Far too young in my opinion, much of it factually incorrect in UK, and definitely not to be encouraged.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Which bits are factually incorrect? I'm not a pig farmer so have no idea. If my boy gets this (year 7) I would like to be able to defend the farming industry. Which parts of the document are factually incorrect?
 

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