Testing for fungal / Bacteria levels in soil.

[TelesnaAg]

I am looking to start usung the johnson su compost extract method to help soil health.

A vital metric is to swap from bacteria dominated soil to fungal dominated.

In the usa labs can measure this, has anyone gone down this road??

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

The best spil chat ive heard in a long time, worth the listen.

Ant..

 

[PSQ]

8 minutes in, and so far he's talked a lot but said absolutely nothing.
I'm not sure if he'd just another 'New Age Ag' guru from or a complete moon howler.
10 minutes: Oh wait a minute, it turns out he's a salesman, whatever an 'extractor' is. I wonder if it's for 'extracting the pee'?
13.15:, now he's off on a tangent about the link between sleep apnoea, calcium, Cpap machines, and "mother calcium" being a muscle relaxant for soil.
It's just a jumbled stream of consciousness, sales, and pseudo science.

 

[Rod Dumbreck]

I thought there were several aspects of this that were well put. I had to watch on double speed though as it was fairly lengthy

 

[tr250]

This is my opinion and perhaps I’m in a lucky position to be able to say it but I wouldn’t bother all it will do is cost you money. We know soil movement is bad and manure, compost and livestock is good keep it simple and spend the money you save on drainage

 

[SilliamWhale]

I am looking to start usung the johnson su compost extract method to help soil health.

A vital metric is to swap from bacteria dominated soil to fungal dominated.

In the usa labs can measure this, has anyone gone down this road??

Ant...

Have you done all the other soil health building stuff first?

Soil Owners Manual is good

 

[TelesnaAg]

Have you done all the other soil health building stuff first?

Soil Owners Manual is good

No im at the beginning, im on volcanic soil plain that hasnt seen a plow ever, always been cattle.

I have hogh potassium in soil, and myself and agronomists thought it was from volcano, id say its more likely from the conditions mentioned in the video.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

Riding around farm today finishing fencing, it all makes sense what is said in the video.

I will draw up a management plan and order some tools.

First step is to establish where the soil is at.

I get bad cracking in summer and crickets are horrendous, i will have to spray this week like it or not.

Ant....

 

[awkward]

Riding around farm today finishing fencing, it all makes sense what is said in the video.

I will draw up a management plan and order some tools.

First step is to establish where the soil is at.

I get bad cracking in summer and crickets are horrendous, i will have to spray this week like it

When it comes to cracking and dry conditions ground cover is your first defence, cycle as much organic matter and introduce any biology you can, johnson su is a good source but many other resources are available to you.

 

[JohnGalway]

I am looking to start usung the johnson su compost extract method to help soil health.

A vital metric is to swap from bacteria dominated soil to fungal dominated.

In the usa labs can measure this, has anyone gone down this road??

Ant...

To measure you could use a Soil Food Web certified lab, there are 7 in Oz.

Laboratory Technicians

SFW Lab-Techs are certified by the Soil Food Web School annually, and are located around the world. You can rapidly have the biology in your soils tested, to find out what is missing from your soil food web.

www.soilfoodweb.com

 

[Farmer Fin]

I would imagine it’s impossible to get a correct true reading especially with fungus. There isn’t the technology available at least at a reasonable cost to sample for all the know fungi and bacteria. Traditional cultures techniques need a lot of time and different media. All a load of rubbish me thinks.

 

[JohnGalway]

I would imagine it’s impossible to get a correct true reading especially with fungus. There isn’t the technology available at least at a reasonable cost to sample for all the know fungi and bacteria. Traditional cultures techniques need a lot of time and different media. All a load of rubbish me thinks.

It's the fungal to bacterial biomass ratio being measured, different plants preferring different ratios, by microscope not culture.

 

[Farmer Fin]

It's the fungal to bacterial biomass ratio being measured, different plants preferring different ratios, by microscope not culture.

Any how are they measuring that? Plus a simple ratio to does not take into account the different species of each which I would imagine is just as important if not more.

 

[JohnGalway]

Any how are they measuring that? Plus a simple ratio to does not take into account the different species of each which I would imagine is just as important if not more.

Measuring is done by counting the bacterial & fungal biomass in samples with the aid of a microscope.

Species ID requires serious funding which is only really done at research level AFAIK, it's not viable financially.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

8 minutes in, and so far he's talked a lot but said absolutely nothing.
I'm not sure if he'd just another 'New Age Ag' guru from or a complete moon howler.
10 minutes: Oh wait a minute, it turns out he's a salesman, whatever an 'extractor' is. I wonder if it's for 'extracting the pee'?
13.15:, now he's off on a tangent about the link between sleep apnoea, calcium, Cpap machines, and "mother calcium" being a muscle relaxant for soil.
It's just a jumbled stream of consciousness, sales, and pseudo science.

Best not to know.

 

[TelesnaAg]

Trsting only needs to be consistent, not accurate, then you can trend increses and decreases.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

A talk on fungi and research into it with soil and plant relationships.

Some people dont like american accents...does there brain by looks.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

Also worth a watch.

Ant...

 

[awkward]

You should also look up Hugh lovell, biodynamic Paul Stamets, fungal

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I am looking to start usung the johnson su compost extract method to help soil health.

A vital metric is to swap from bacteria dominated soil to fungal dominated.

In the usa labs can measure this, has anyone gone down this road??

Ant...

Have you made your reactor yet? Any tips? I'm just thinking of doing one.