Yeh this is abit different. There is some serious payments on offer annually but for quite long commitments. But make something like elms looks like a joke.
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TFF promoting carbon capture rip off
- Thread starter DrDunc
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I will have a read, the Trinity system also try’s to quantify ecosystem gain but that’s a lot harder to do and not as saleable as carbon arguably at the moment
Why people see it as a rip off?
If there is a market for it whats the issue?
If there is a market for it whats the issue?
if it incentives or makes viable positive change then it is surely a good thing ?
offset should not be a reason to not also reduce emissions as well however I 100% agree
farmers clearly don’t like the idea of taking money for services they can provide ……….. unless it comes from the government as a sub cheque it seems ! No bigger “disgrace” than cashing a BPS cheque imo
i find it hard to understand why this new market is not being seen as the massive opportunity it clear is to anyone who bothers to really get their head around how it all works and the market for it
I suspect attitudes will chance when BPS is gone
Whitewalker
Member
So what the process to get going ?
I said this in a land agent breakfast meeting a couple months ago. At least you actually have to do and prove something to get money, not literally just own land and have a cross compliance strip next to a ditch!
Yes, when it goes tits up, for example you’ve planted trees and Storm Eunice blows them all over, you’d better make damn sure you’re well insured for such an event because you can bet your bottom dollar they’ll come to you for the damages!
Make an account on one of the various verification platforms. Read the rules and Contract to see if you can do it or if you need to change a few things. And whether you are comfortable with those rules. For example you cannot plough.
Fill in with everything you have done for each field, it works out what you have to sell. Then after harvest you put in what actually happend. They verify with satellite and on site visits. You get ISO carbon certificates to sell
You don’t plant trees in these systems. People need to understand what’s actually on offer rather than making I’ll informed flippant statements like this!
farmerm
Member
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- Shropshire
What proof is required? I have yet to see how soil carbon sequestation can be accurately and reliably measured and demonstrated. Proving you have followed certain protocols is not proof of carbon sequestation.
I only used it as an example of when things go wrong.
That is just top flight comedy right there.
Whitewalker
Member
all new to me . Will have a
Yeh I get you, anything can go wrong though with anything.
I don’t make the United Nations ISO accredited rules or create the algorithms.
Indeed it can, I was made aware of this two days ago when in conversation it was mentioned that even the NFU Mutual are going to offer insurance for a carbon sequestration underperform.
farmerm
Member
- Location
- Shropshire
so no proof required, got it
Whitewalker
Member
So what are current returns available from said process at the moment?
Wellytrack
Member
I don’t think you have an idea of just how resentful farmers feel @Clive
After being taken for mugs for decades with outside bodies and investors there is zero confidence that this won’t result in some serious trouser down over the dresser action without so much as a peck on the cheek in the near future…
After being taken for mugs for decades with outside bodies and investors there is zero confidence that this won’t result in some serious trouser down over the dresser action without so much as a peck on the cheek in the near future…