The Red Tractor ACCS referendum

[Vader]

Anyone else get the Beef and lamb email, but without the revisions? They're bloody useless.

Not because I quit rt for beef.

 

[Vader]

I have reluctantly paid up beef fa now(to protect dairy fa) May sell my store cattle and barrens as non fa though!! Be a good thing to keep as much non fa produce out there as possible I reckon.

Been no little difference in our stores and cull price since dropping fa

 

[farmerm]

It doesn’t really. But grain monitoring and conditioning helps keep mycotoxins from increasing in store. The problem is with these wet summers, mycotoxins have already set into the crop in the field before it’s even in the store. The mycotoxin risk assessment that we have to fill in for RT could steer us towards ploughing to reduce risk though I haven’t seen much difference between fusarium in ploughed or unploughed TBH. It largely depends on the weather. But really we seem to be monitoring and ticking boxes, doing risk assessments for something that seems to be beyond our control, being largely weather dependent. But customers want us to take mycotoxin reduction measures at every stage in the process and want to see an audited trail. I’m fairly tired of it all to be honest but sometimes it’s easier just to tick the damn box and get on than to keep moaning about it.

Meanwhile a company intentional produce vats of fusarium which they market as an alternative to meat

 

[tullah]

It's time people started phoning customer service at the supermarkets and asking which farm their RT joint of beef, packet of mince etc. originated from. It's all a pack of lies. We could skin them alive if chose to.

 

[Grass And Grain]

It's time people started phoning customer service at the supermarkets and asking which farm their RT joint of beef, packet of mince etc. originated from. It's all a pack of lies. We could skin them alive if chose to.

And how traceable back to farm that milling wheat is, after it came out of a central store.

 

[Drillman]

And how traceable back to farm that milling wheat is, after it came out of a central store.

About as traceable as my 60 ton of OSR that was tipped in a shed with about 10-15,000 other tons of OSR yesterday!

 

[SilliamWhale]

And how traceable back to farm that milling wheat is, after it came out of a central store.

To be fair no milling wheat has RT bread labels

 

[Same95]

Been no little difference in our stores and cull price since dropping fa

Glad to hear it. You are doing a good job for the rest of us and the beef/farming industry in general I reckon.

 

[Vader]

Glad to hear it. You are doing a good job for the rest of us and the beef/farming industry in general I reckon.

Plenty of demand for beef.
I recommend its perfect time for people to drop RT.

 

[stroller]

NFU mutual investment called today to see if I wanted to review my ISA and pension, I took the opportunity to tell them that I was having nothing to do with either the NFU or mutual until they sorted out the red tractor scam, the rep seemed resigned and admitted they were aware of the problem and would pass my comments to their manager.

 

[Clive]

NFU mutual investment called today to see if I wanted to review my ISA and pension, I took the opportunity to tell them that I was having nothing to do with either the NFU or mutual until they sorted out the red tractor scam, the rep seemed resigned and admitted they were aware of the problem and would pass my comments to their manager.

money is the only way to get the NFU’s genuine attention according to their accounts

connections to the mutual is worth 6-7 million a year to the NFU

 

[Chris F]

NFU mutual investment called today to see if I wanted to review my ISA and pension, I took the opportunity to tell them that I was having nothing to do with either the NFU or mutual until they sorted out the red tractor scam, the rep seemed resigned and admitted they were aware of the problem and would pass my comments to their manager.

You do wonder how many times this has to happen and how much business they have to loose, before they actually take action.

 

[stroller]

You do wonder how many times this has to happen and how much business they have to loose, before they actually take action.

I suppose it will be when the revenue lost becomes greater than the red tractor scam income

 

[Qman]

I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.

 

[Chris F]

I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.

This jobs for the "boys" attitude is why no one rocks the boat.

 

[Grass And Grain]

I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.

You'd think they'd realise we're not going to go away.

And why oh why won't they stand up for farmers and WANT to get us equal market access at least cost?

They seem to want to voluntarily add extra costs to us, and make us less competitive.

Hopefully they'll produce a solution. If they don't, I hope everyone leaves NFU and punishes their stance. Very few farmers seem to agree with the NFU stance. They shouldn't railroad us all into RT just for the sake of the Voluntary Initiative. The VI needs to find a way of existing on its own.

 

[Grass And Grain]

I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.

Can you remember his angle? Was it that it's more expensive to get pesticide tests done than to join RT? So better for us all to be in RT?

 

[Chris F]

You'd think they'd realise we're not going to go away.

And why oh why won't they stand up for farmers and WANT to get us equal market access at least cost?

They seem to want to voluntarily add extra costs to us, and make us less competitive.

Hopefully they'll produce a solution. If they don't, I hope everyone leaves NFU and punishes their stance. Very few farmers seem to agree with the NFU stance. They shouldn't railroad us all into RT just for the sake of the Voluntary Initiative. The VI needs to find a way of existing on its own.

Don't know if you saw the other day, but the VI were promoting NFU membership.

And they say the two aren't linked.

 

[Qman]

Can you remember his angle? Was it that it's more expensive to get pesticide tests done than to join RT? So better for us all to be in RT?

He just dismissed what I was saying as if I was the only person who is dissatisfied with their blackmailing organisation. He stood there with an inane grin on his face. I didn't rate him, Guy Smith was a better bet.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Don't know if you saw the other day, but the VI were promoting NFU membership.

And they say the two aren't linked.

Didn't see that.

As far as the VI goes, I think it needs reform. However, putting reform to a side for now, the VI could slot nicely along side of a pesticide declaration.