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The Red Tractor ACCS referendum

Would you leave or remain a Red Tractor ACCS member ?

  • Yes, I would resign my Red Tractor (ACCS) membership and join a new "equal to imports" Scheme

    Votes: 659 96.1%
  • No, I would remain in the Red Tractor scheme

    Votes: 27 3.9%

  • Total voters
    686

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
It doesn’t really. But grain monitoring and conditioning helps keep mycotoxins from increasing in store. The problem is with these wet summers, mycotoxins have already set into the crop in the field before it’s even in the store. The mycotoxin risk assessment that we have to fill in for RT could steer us towards ploughing to reduce risk though I haven’t seen much difference between fusarium in ploughed or unploughed TBH. It largely depends on the weather. But really we seem to be monitoring and ticking boxes, doing risk assessments for something that seems to be beyond our control, being largely weather dependent. But customers want us to take mycotoxin reduction measures at every stage in the process and want to see an audited trail. I’m fairly tired of it all to be honest but sometimes it’s easier just to tick the damn box and get on than to keep moaning about it.
Meanwhile a company intentional produce vats of fusarium which they market as an alternative to meat 🤷‍♂️
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
It's time people started phoning customer service at the supermarkets and asking which farm their RT joint of beef, packet of mince etc. originated from. It's all a pack of lies. We could skin them alive if chose to.
And how traceable back to farm that milling wheat is, after it came out of a central store.
 

stroller

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset UK
NFU mutual investment called today to see if I wanted to review my ISA and pension, I took the opportunity to tell them that I was having nothing to do with either the NFU or mutual until they sorted out the red tractor scam, the rep seemed resigned and admitted they were aware of the problem and would pass my comments to their manager.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Moderator
Location
Lichfield
NFU mutual investment called today to see if I wanted to review my ISA and pension, I took the opportunity to tell them that I was having nothing to do with either the NFU or mutual until they sorted out the red tractor scam, the rep seemed resigned and admitted they were aware of the problem and would pass my comments to their manager.

money is the only way to get the NFU’s genuine attention according to their accounts

connections to the mutual is worth 6-7 million a year to the NFU
 

Chris F

Staff
Moderator
Location
Hammerwich
NFU mutual investment called today to see if I wanted to review my ISA and pension, I took the opportunity to tell them that I was having nothing to do with either the NFU or mutual until they sorted out the red tractor scam, the rep seemed resigned and admitted they were aware of the problem and would pass my comments to their manager.

You do wonder how many times this has to happen and how much business they have to loose, before they actually take action.
 

Qman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Derby
I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.
 

Chris F

Staff
Moderator
Location
Hammerwich
I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.

This jobs for the "boys" attitude is why no one rocks the boat.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.
You'd think they'd realise we're not going to go away.

And why oh why won't they stand up for farmers and WANT to get us equal market access at least cost?

They seem to want to voluntarily add extra costs to us, and make us less competitive.

Hopefully they'll produce a solution. If they don't, I hope everyone leaves NFU and punishes their stance. Very few farmers seem to agree with the NFU stance. They shouldn't railroad us all into RT just for the sake of the Voluntary Initiative. The VI needs to find a way of existing on its own.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I spoke to the NFU Vice President at the Brailsford Ploughing Match about Red Tractor and AHDB. He didn't take any notice at all about the issues we have with them, he just fobbed me off. I asked him if these organisations were kept going so that ex NFU office holders could get a job. He didn't seem to like that much!

I don't mind us having standards, but it is the folk with the best paperwork who get the passes, never mind how they look after their animals. And I hate all this empire building that these quangos love to do.
Can you remember his angle? Was it that it's more expensive to get pesticide tests done than to join RT? So better for us all to be in RT?
 

Chris F

Staff
Moderator
Location
Hammerwich
You'd think they'd realise we're not going to go away.

And why oh why won't they stand up for farmers and WANT to get us equal market access at least cost?

They seem to want to voluntarily add extra costs to us, and make us less competitive.

Hopefully they'll produce a solution. If they don't, I hope everyone leaves NFU and punishes their stance. Very few farmers seem to agree with the NFU stance. They shouldn't railroad us all into RT just for the sake of the Voluntary Initiative. The VI needs to find a way of existing on its own.

Don't know if you saw the other day, but the VI were promoting NFU membership.

And they say the two aren't linked.
 

Qman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Derby
Can you remember his angle? Was it that it's more expensive to get pesticide tests done than to join RT? So better for us all to be in RT?

He just dismissed what I was saying as if I was the only person who is dissatisfied with their blackmailing organisation. He stood there with an inane grin on his face. I didn't rate him, Guy Smith was a better bet.
 

How is your SFI 24 application progressing?

  • havn't been invited to apply

    Votes: 29 34.9%
  • have been invited to apply

    Votes: 17 20.5%
  • applied but not yet accepted

    Votes: 29 34.9%
  • agreement up and running

    Votes: 8 9.6%

Webinar: Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer 2024 -26th Sept

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On Thursday 26th September, we’re holding a webinar for farmers to go through the guidance, actions and detail for the expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer. This was planned for end of May, but had to be delayed due to the general election. We apologise about that.

Farming and Countryside Programme Director, Janet Hughes will be joined by policy leads working on SFI, and colleagues from the Rural Payment Agency and Catchment Sensitive Farming.

This webinar will be...
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