Time we were out of the EU!

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
See the Farmers Weekly are saying France has banned sale of Roundup!!
How does getting out of the EU help? It is highly likely we will be left with fewer products available to us than our EU neighbours. It is almost certain our gov will as a minimum mirror any EU revoking of chemical approvals in order to allow us to continue to trade with them. In addition as we are a smaller market, manufactures will get approval to release new products into the EU well before the UK.
 

radar

Member
Mixed Farmer
How does getting out of the EU help? It is highly likely we will be left with fewer products available to us than our EU neighbours. It is almost certain our gov will as a minimum mirror any EU revoking of chemical approvals in order to allow us to continue to trade with them. In addition as we are a smaller market, manufactures will get approval to release new products into the EU well before the UK.
No chance of a level playing field either way then!
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
No chance of a level playing field either way then!
None whatsoever. Let’s not forget we have an urban centric Parliament with little care for the rural vote. Ag lobbies have more influence in most other EU countries where keeping rural voters happy is far more important than here.
 

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
How does getting out of the EU help? It is highly likely we will be left with fewer products available to us than our EU neighbours. It is almost certain our gov will as a minimum mirror any EU revoking of chemical approvals in order to allow us to continue to trade with them. In addition as we are a smaller market, manufactures will get approval to release new products into the EU well before the UK.
Why will we have to ban it to be able to trade with the eu,we cannot grow gm but it doesn’t stop it being sent here
 

fudge

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
Why will we have to ban it to be able to trade with the eu,we cannot grow gm but it doesn’t stop it being sent here
Turbo please pay attention! In Gove’s brave new world the UK is going to be greener than the EU. He has already banned metaldehyde because it is “harmful to wildlife”. Even you must be able to see where this is heading in or out of the EU.
 

Barleycorn

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Hampshire
Not old enough to know apart from burning ludicrous amounts of diesel pulling it up and into heaps to be burned. I know fine which is less damaging to the environment.
Times have moved on. They do these in 6 meter now, and are very effective. We had a filthy couch fiel that cam out of HLS and it cleaned it in 2 passes.
 

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southwest
It amazes me that 21st century farmers can only "farm" using chemicals, whereas their grandfathers had to deal with weeds using appropriate husbandry* techniques.

As for threads on TFF "what cultivator do I need" well, words fail me.


* method of farming utilising crop rotations and cultivation to reduce and eradicate weeds and preserve natural fertility--for more information ask anyone over 60.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Why will we have to ban it to be able to trade with the eu,we cannot grow gm but it doesn’t stop it being sent here
Because our politicians with bend over for the EU.. failing that our anti glyphosate lobbyists will eventually make it impossible for the UK gov to allow feeding its public a chemical that is banned in the EU
 
Location
southwest
Yes I can remember when Roundup & Gramoxone came in and were used to control couch.

But then farmers got lazy and started to use Roundup to kill of grassland before ploughing, rather than ploughing properly. And to kill of cereal crops before harvest, because they were growing cereals were they shouldn't.

Amazing that in the 1960's farmers were getting 2t/acre of barley with just a couple cwt of Fisons 52 and one application of Benelene. And no one had a 100 hp tractor!
 
Delusional. You have no more control or influence in Westminster than you do in Brussels.

Actually the EU is more democratic than the UK government with an elected European Parliament and the Commission. In the case of the latter the Commission can only propose laws in those areas where the EU governments have unanimously agreed to allow it to do under the EU treaty. Put another way, the Commission can only propose EU laws in areas where the UK government and the House of Commons has allowed it to do so. Also, ‘proposing’ is not the same as ‘deciding’. A Commission proposal only becomes law if it is approved by both a qualified-majority in the EU Council (unanimity in many sensitive areas) and a simple majority in the European Parliament.

Second, the Commission President and the Commissioners are indirectly elected, under article 17 of the EU Treaty, as amended by the Lisbon Treaty, the Commission President is formally proposed by the European Council (the 28 heads of government of the EU member states), by a qualified-majority vote, and is then ‘elected’ by a majority vote in the European Parliament.

Meanwhile we have an unelected House of Lords, a Prime Minister and the British cabinet are who are not 'directly elected’, an unelected civil Service and an unelected head of state based on their supposed genetic superiority.
 

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