Time we were out of the EU!

[Exfarmer]

It it still detectable in the grain after harvest. I hosted a group of European maltsters in July and one of them said he'd found it in a batch of U.K. Malting barley shipped from the south coast. I asked him if he'd pay a small premium for a guarantee that I wouldn't use it and he said no. The residues were under the legal limit but readily detectable nonetheless.

It is most likely they are not detecting the glyphosate, but the wetters used

 

[quattro]

Plenty used in the north and Scotland pre harvest. Less down south

Pretty sure you can spray malting barley with it

 

[Brisel]

Pretty sure you can spray malting barley with it

It's approved on most of the glyphosate labels but you're supposed to notify the merchant. All my contracts say so.

This doesn't mean we shouldn't try and avoid using it if we want to keep it.

 

[farmerm]

It it still detectable in the grain after harvest. I hosted a group of European maltsters in July and one of them said he'd found it in a batch of U.K. Malting barley shipped from the south coast. I asked him if he'd pay a small premium for a guarantee that I wouldn't use it and he said no. The residues were under the legal limit but readily detectable nonetheless.

Scientists wont be happy with developing residue testing until they can measure residues at the level of individual molecules....

 

[jonnyjon]

Our own fault.

How many millions of litres have been applied to crops pre-harvest, when in reality everyone could have just waited another week instead?

Was once that soldier myself, believing the chemical salesman's bs

 

[jonnyjon]

it will either be banned or more and more plants will build a resistance to it.

Both

 

[ollie989898]

I do not see a problem with the house of lords as they are a secondary part of our political system.

The EU is not interested in democracy and have said as much. Remind me where I had a chance to vote on the red fire extinguishers.

 

[czechmate]

I do not see a problem with the house of lords as they are a secondary part of our political system.

The EU is not interested in democracy and have said as much. Remind me where I had a chance to vote on the red fire extinguishers.

Uk govmt made us wear seat belts in 82, we didn’t get to vote on that either.

 

[ollie989898]

Uk govmt made us wear seat belts in 82, we didn’t get to vote on that either.

That is the lamest counter argument ive ever seen to be frank.

 

[getting on]

Actually the EU is more democratic than the UK government with an elected European Parliament and the Commission. In the case of the latter the Commission can only propose laws in those areas where the EU governments have unanimously agreed to allow it to do under the EU treaty. Put another way, the Commission can only propose EU laws in areas where the UK government and the House of Commons has allowed it to do so. Also, ‘proposing’ is not the same as ‘deciding’. A Commission proposal only becomes law if it is approved by both a qualified-majority in the EU Council (unanimity in many sensitive areas) and a simple majority in the European Parliament.

Second, the Commission President and the Commissioners are indirectly elected, under article 17 of the EU Treaty, as amended by the Lisbon Treaty, the Commission President is formally proposed by the European Council (the 28 heads of government of the EU member states), by a qualified-majority vote, and is then ‘elected’ by a majority vote in the European Parliament.

Meanwhile we have an unelected House of Lords, a Prime Minister and the British cabinet are who are not 'directly elected’, an unelected civil Service and an unelected head of state based on their supposed genetic superiority.

 

[getting on]

Hear- Hear

 

[Strungup52]

Interesting opinions on glypho pluses and minuses as regards Britain/Europe.
Overuse of glypho is the biggest threat in North America and associated resistance. We try to use it once/year only and certainly not more than 3 times in 2 years. To lose glypho as a tool in prairie farming would almost without question result in a return to dustbowl conditions in many areas and the associated HUGE loss in production.
Almost every crop we put in is preceded by 1lt/ac 360gm equivalent of glypho. RR canola grown not more than 1 year in 4 gets a further litre in crop. Barley for malt never gets glypho pre harvest. Wheats may get pre a harvest app if weeds, particularly Canada Thistle, are bad following peas or lentils.
I believe if glypho is banned in any significant agricultural production area of the world, then the experiences of the following 5 years will lead to its reintroduction.

 

[Brisel]

Once it has gone it will not be brought back. That has been the case for every other active ingredient withdrawn in Europe with the only exception of asulam for bracken control where there was no other alternative.

 

[czechmate]

Once it has gone it will not be brought back. That has been the case for every other active ingredient withdrawn in Europe with the only exception of asulam for bracken control where there was no other alternative.

Did not cpu not go and come back?

 

[Brisel]

Did not cpu not go and come back?

CPU?

 

[czechmate]

CPU?

Half of dicurane

 

[czechmate]

chlorotoluron

 

[shakerator]

Did not cpu not go and come back?

At around 5% dose rate

 

[shakerator]

CPU?

Millennium bug (computing processing unit )

 

[ollie989898]

At around 5% dose rate

Absolute waste of time at that rate.