Too hot for liquid N?

[Will7]

I am putting 300ltrs 30N +11S on 1-3 leaf wheat in the hope we get some rain tonight (it looks less likely every time I check the forecast...) They are now talking of it getting to 18C today, and there is not a cloud in the sky. Pictured is one of the thinner patches and one of the better but you will get the idea. Crack on or draw stumps??

 

[Against_the_grain]

I am putting 300ltrs 30N +11S on 1-3 leaf wheat in the hope we get some rain tonight (it looks less likely every time I check the forecast...) They are now talking of it getting to 18C today, and there is not a cloud in the sky. Pictured is one of the thinner patches and one of the better but you will get the idea. Crack on or draw stumps??

Imo too hot and sunny today now. well here in Essex anyway. 10degrees and cloudy tomorrow will be better.

 

[Ivorbiggun]

As above. Tomorrow would be better . Early as possible while there’s a dew as well.
If you do get any rain today then crack on whilst it’s raining or soon afterwards.

 

[Brisel]

We’ve just stopped doing a lower dose on osr that’s worth spending on due to hot sunshine. The forecast is for cooler weather from tomorrow. Might have another look this evening when the heat has gone from the sun.

 

[Will7]

Packed up at 10:15 having got 20 cube on. Was too hot and bright. The weather map shows thunderstorms going around but none here yet. Will have a go later or in the morning.

 

[Brisel]

No rain forecast here for the foreseeable future. Starting to wonder if I hold off on the final N on wheat? Liquid ought to be available to the plant sooner and some may be absorbed by the leaves it has scorched on the way down???

 

[fudge]

Fertilizer? Liquid or solid cannot really do anything without rain. We have incorporated n into spring barley seedbeds but won’t do any top dressing until there’s rain on the radar. Pointless.

 

[ratchet spanner]

Fertilizer? Liquid or solid cannot really do anything without rain. We have incorporated n into spring barley seedbeds but won’t do any top dressing until there’s rain on the radar. Pointless.

Cant agree with that . put liquid N on wheat two weeks ago and greened up in 3 days. No rain here for 3 wks. I think a bit overnight dampness is all liquid needs.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Cant agree with that . put liquid N on wheat two weeks ago and greened up in 3 days. No rain here for 3 wks. I think a bit overnight dampness is all liquid needs.

I agree, the kick from liquid happens far far faster than in solid. I reckon even existing soil moisture or the dew must be enough.

 

[fudge]

Mmmmm anyone would think I had never used liquid. Without rain it won’t translate to yield.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Mmmmm anyone would think I had never used liquid. Without rain it won’t translate to yield.

No water is no water I agree but the crop can get access to nitrogen far more readily when it is applied as liquid in my opinion.

 

[fudge]

In fairness to ratchet spanner the surface of the soil under a wheat canopy would have been damper a fortnight ago in this parish! Today the ground is very dry on the surface here, ime liquid doesn’t really get into the crop today’s conditions. Will still be there if it does rain though.

 

[Tilly's Boss]

As above. Tomorrow would be better . Early as possible while there’s a dew as well.
If you do get any rain today then crack on whilst it’s raining or soon afterwards.

I was on the understanding not to apply on a dew as it would stick to the leaf, wait for dry leaf then liquid will run off the leaf, another difficult year not to scorch, spring barley to do before emergence but it’s poking through, would you still go?

 

[Brisel]

I was on the understanding not to apply on a dew as it would stick to the leaf, wait for dry leaf then liquid will run off the leaf, another difficult year not to scorch, spring barley to do before emergence but it’s poking through, would you still go?

Not in hot sunny windy weather. The odds of hitting such a small target are low but when you did you would hit a big % of a very delicate leaf. Half of mine went on spring crops pre drilling and the other half pre emergence.

 

[tw15]

No rain about and hot whats the point I am having Easter at home for a change Fert can wait till Tuesday at the very earliest when its cooler, no point risking any harm to a crop that is struggling .

 

[yellow belly]

In 2011 much drier than this year when i used liquid it got into the crop without rain
now use urea and always put it on 2 to 3 weeks earlier than I would liquid

 

[Andrew K]

I just do a couple of tankfuls each evening before it gets too dark. I think liquid stays around much better than solid due to more efficient soil particle bonding in dry conditions. As far as scorch goes, low windspeeds and darkness are your friends...