Too late for pendimethalin?

[DrWazzock]

I have stack of it in the store but I am feeling like it’s too late for it. Too dry. My WW is 2 leaf and under stress. My spring barley just drilled, not up, soil not settled yet and a windy weekend forecast which could blow the soil around. Very little rain forecast here.
Forget it or still worth applying?

 

[CJS]

I have stack of it in the store but I am feeling like it’s too late for it. Too dry. My WW is 2 leaf and under stress. My spring barley just drilled, not up, soil not settled yet and a windy weekend forecast which could blow the soil around. Very little rain forecast here.
Forget it or still worth applying?

Forget it

 

[robbie]

Unless you specifically want it for annual meadow grass control in the spring barley I'd forget it and use it next autumn.
Your wheat can be cleaned up later on once its healthier with a whole selection of products and an SU+hbn +/- axial will keep a spring barley crop clean.

 

[DrWazzock]

Thanks. Another strategic balls up. Anyway plenty for autumn.?

 

[Brisel]

Unless the label is about to expire and you need to get rid, I'd avoid it in the current conditions. Barley is quite sensitive to it and your wheat isn't strong enough either. The cut off for Stomp Aqua is GS30 in wheat which will be soon and is pre emergence in spring barley.

 

[emd]

So if it was done, this weekend what harm might it do to the wheat ?

 

[Will 1594]

@Brisel have a rec for a small area ,of late drilled ww ,to do with atlantis .for a bit of brome , we think it will hammer it too much ,
What else can we put on for brome control ,
Round up ?

 

[teslacoils]

What else can we put on for brome control ,
Round up ?

Broadway star?

 

[Brisel]

Atlantis and PDM will be very hot on the crop

 

[Brisel]

Broadway star?

This. Or Pacifica Plus.

 

[Hampton]

Unless the label is about to expire and you need to get rid, I'd avoid it in the current conditions. Barley is quite sensitive to it and your wheat isn't strong enough either. The cut off for Stomp Aqua is GS30 in wheat which will be soon and is pre emergence in spring barley.

what about straight DFF 100-150g good on many broad leaf weeds although obviously following crop can be an issue

 

[deleted user 837354]

I wouldn't do Atlantis + PDM right now unless I could avoid seeing the crop for a few weeks after...

Broadway Sunrise was always a sniff on the hot side I thought?

Pacifica vs Broadway star on brome I always found a mixed bag. Would have differing efficacy each year with no rhyme or reason. Get the brome when it is small.

 

[Chae1]

I've just sprayed about 300 acres newly drilled spring barley with pendemethlin and df. So hope this threads wrong. No moisture here now or in forecast for foreseeable future.

I missed it out last year due to dry only did one 16 acre field. Reckon leaving it out cost me 0.5t/acre

 

[deleted user 837354]

I've just sprayed about 300 acres newly drilled spring barley with pendemethlin and df. So hope this threads wrong. No moisture here now or in forecast for foreseeable future.

I missed it out last year due to dry only did one 16 acre field. Reckon leaving it out cost me 0.5t/acre

It should be fine, it's spring barley- stuff grows like a weed. Nice warm seed bed it will out of the ground and tillering before you can wink.

 

[Brisel]

what about straight DFF 100-150g good on many broad leaf weeds although obviously following crop can be an issue

The OP hadn’t specified what it was designed to control. What you’ve posted is true though

 

[robbie]

@Brisel have a rec for a small area ,of late drilled ww ,to do with atlantis .for a bit of brome , we think it will hammer it too much ,
What else can we put on for brome control ,
Round up ?

As others have said I'd go with the Broadway star. I've always found it to be very reliable on brome and probably the kindest aswell in my opinion.

I'm positive that when I've used atlantis/othello/Pacifica to tidy up grass weeds its cost me yield probably because crops on my land are always under some sort of stress from one thing or another.

 

[Flat 10]

I've just sprayed about 300 acres newly drilled spring barley with pendemethlin and df. So hope this threads wrong. No moisture here now or in forecast for foreseeable future.

I missed it out last year due to dry only did one 16 acre field. Reckon leaving it out cost me 0.5t/acre

What weeds cost you the yield? Amg?

 

[Chae1]

What weeds cost you the yield? Amg?

Yes.

 

[Flat 10]

Yes.

Not so much of a problem this way. But then you don't have BG........