Tractor breakers db

[puntabrava]

Ha.... Said by someone who doesn't like real tractors showing up new rubbish

The new stuff would need to be complete Shyte for a DB to show it up!!
Contractor I worked at had a 2090 before the Fendt 614’s came along and the big farmers locally had a DB 1690, the DB’s spent more time at the dealers than out working.
Are you telling me that 30 years later the feckkkinnn rubbbish has become more reliable?

As an anside the 2090 had the best air on I have ever experienced, used to be able to put ice onto the inside of the windscreen.

 

[biggmw]

Maybe not right enough but it's an acquired taste!!

Would that be the Aircon with the older gas that got things cold.... A32 or some thing like

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

The new stuff would need to be complete Shyte for a DB to show it up!!
Contractor I worked at had a 2090 before the Fendt 614’s came along and the big farmers locally had a DB 1690, the DB’s spent more time at the dealers than out working.
Are you telling me that 30 years later the feckkkinnn rubbbish has become more reliable?

As an anside the 2090 had the best air on I have ever experienced, used to be able to put ice onto the inside of the windscreen.

Just to be picky a 2090 was not a technically a DB

 

[puntabrava]

Just to be picky a 2090 was not a technically a DB

Your probably right, a 1690 was tho and a 1390, traumatised many a farmer they did.
Let’s face it, if they were any good they would still be going strong.

 

[Sharpy]

Your probably right, a 1690 was tho and a 1390, traumatised many a farmer they did.
Let’s face it, if they were any good they would still be going strong.

Short version. Only the better ones have survived, maintained by a plentiful supply of second hand spares from the bottom 95% of production and people who make land rover enthusiasts look sane and not oily.

 

[biggmw]

Right let's just look at the fact that it was nothing to do with tractors produces that stopped production.

Money issues forces the sale of the tractor part of the business and case were hardly going to keep the competition going once they bought it!!!

Aye lots still going..... And going well.....

 

[Sharpy]

They were that good that they developed the maxxum to replace them. Nuff said!

 

[biggmw]

They were that good that they developed the maxxum to replace them. Nuff said!

Developed at Meltham before shut down technically speaking....

 

[john432]

They were that good that they developed the maxxum to replace them. Nuff said!

Not much difference to Massey eventually dropping the Coventry built back end.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Right let's just look at the fact that it was nothing to do with tractors produces that stopped production.

Money issues forces the sale of the tractor part of the business and case were hardly going to keep the competition going once they bought it!!!

Aye lots still going..... And going well.....

If I was told correctly the government at the time had to choose between DB or Rolls Royce who were close to going under. Made the wrong desicion and made DB pay back the loan they had to bail out RR

 

[bill and bens dad]

try Rob Speakman on 07773 951937

 

[Exfarmer]

Tenneco bought out Case and DB in the early 70’s later they also bought IH
the Maxxumm was developed by DB as the replacement for the 14/15/1600 range And the smaller Case models. There is film and pictures available of development models
when Case bought IH the decision was taken to drop the smaller DB models which were relatively expensive to build And concerpntrate on the smaller IH Which had good sales in the stock areas. The larger IH models were dropped to make way for the MAxxumm.
However at this time the pound was very strong and it was decided to build the tractor at Neuss in Germany . This involved building a complete new factory over the top of the existing plant .By the time this new plant was up and running Exchange rates had gone massively the other way. Tenneco like MF had been over taken by the money men and the outlook was grim. Eventually the agricultural division was sold to Fiat New Holland. The Maxxumm name lives on, but David Brown had been buried a long time.

 

[J 1177]

If I was told correctly the government at the time had to choose between DB or Rolls Royce who were close to going under. Made the wrong desicion and made DB pay back the loan they had to bail out RR

Lloyds bank called dbs overdraft after RR had lost a fortune on the RB211 engine and were about to go tits up.

 

[J 1177]

Right let's just look at the fact that it was nothing to do with tractors produces that stopped production.

Money issues forces the sale of the tractor part of the business and case were hardly going to keep the competition going once they bought it!!!

Aye lots still going..... And going well.....

They really went down in quality with the early 90 series, later ones were good. Around here a lot of farms had a fleet of dbs including us. unfortunately the early 90 series were dogs and it made the same farms change makes.
We never had a 90 series but my dad's cousin had a new 1490 that was horrendous, bad enough to put us off so when we changed our 995 we bought a 785xl International, that was a good tractor.
I like David browns and class the selectamatic range as one of the best, sadly lack of investment under the ownership of Tenneco severely harmed them.

 

[Exfarmer]

They really went down in quality with the early 90 series, later ones were good. Around here a lot of farms had a fleet of dbs including us. unfortunately the early 90 series were dogs and it made the same farms change makes.
We never had a 90 series but my dad's cousin had a new 1490 that was horrendous, bad enough to put us off so when we changed our 995 we bought a 785xl International, that was a good tractor.
I like David browns and class the selectamatic range as one of the best, sadly lack of investment under the ownership of Tenneco severely harmed them.

you were obviously lucky with your 785 we had an early one and it had an endearing habit when we bought it new. It would engage two gears at once ! This had the effect of instantly locking the transmission, bringing the tractor to an immediate halt.
We came to the point of insisting the company remove the machine which we judged dangerous on the road and thought it would shortly smash something.
Thankfully before this happened IH came out with a recall and the machine went back for modification. it was a gear box linkage issue after this it was a cracking little tractor and convinced us that DBs were finished although we did have a couple more 1490's which were a heavier tractor, but no match on the road. They had lost their place as the quality end of the market even with the Hydra shift option

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Lloyds bank called dbs overdraft after RR had lost a fortune on the RB211 engine and were about to go tits up.

So what I was told was close to what happened, same result anyway .
All happened before I was even a twinkle in anyone's eye

 

[Netherfield]

DB were also supposedly going to build tractors with the 4BT and 6BT engines, I was told that Case and Cummins had a little fallout over money for development. The engine should have been in production 2 years sooner.

 

[puntabrava]

Right let's just look at the fact that it was nothing to do with tractors produces that stopped production.

Money issues forces the sale of the tractor part of the business and case were hardly going to keep the competition going once they bought it!!!

Aye lots still going..... And going well.....

David Brown 1490 Tractor | RJ and KD McLean Ltd – Tractors and Plant

Look at the price, that is the price of junk.
Even a rusted out knackered MF 135 is worth more.