Trustytractor JAP engine thoughts, please

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
To start off with this is not a what is it worth thread as I expect the answer would be very little, The sentimental value is enormous though!
My father died in 2015 and in 2018 we started sorting his place out and came across his old tractor,2 wheels not 4.
Now as children we grew up with this tractor as infants riding on the toolbox for many years.
The time has come to sell dads place as I have my life here in Germany and my brother has no interest in taking it on (has his own place).
Now I am toying with the idea of bringing the old trusty to Germany and totally renovating it but don#t think I can get it in the back of my car :ROFLMAO:
So my main question is !! if the motor needs work on it what are the chances of getting spares? if no original parts are available can you get parts machined?
Then the next question is what would be the best method of transporting it from North Staffs to Central Germany without having to mortgage the house :oops:
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Any input is gratefully appreciated

Max
 

Netherfield

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Location
West Yorkshire
Could you not buy a little trailer and sell it on when you arrive? My b-I-law was just telling me he has just bought a car trailer from a Polish chap who makes them, loads up a lorry and brings them over when he has enough orders (from ebay shops?). :)
We picked up a very old but hardly used Ifor 4 wheel covered sheep trailer on our local Equestrian ads site, for very little money. We have mostly been using it for moving old junk and is fine behind the Octavia estate. I reckon it is a 2 tonner.
I love these old ploughs, I have a 1943 Plowmate my sister found in a fallen down shed where she lived in Anglesey, but I think we hired a Transit for that one. It's a real man killer ! Mine had either B&S or JAP engines as options, but mine was a B&S. I have a geared down Chinese 6hp on it at the mo until I get the original done up, At least it is mobile.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Never used one but see plenty at ploughing matches, reckon it would soon have you fit using one. I take my hat off to the people using them and have seen some lovely work done on occasion but bugger me, what hard work!!
 
Never used one but see plenty at ploughing matches, reckon it would soon have you fit using one. I take my hat off to the people using them and have seen some lovely work done on occasion but bugger me, what hard work!!
The one my sister found was bought by the estate in 1943 because the ploughman said he wanted a tractor to plough their stoney 7 acre field for the war effort. He said he finished the 7 acres, put it in the shed, and there it stayed until my sister found it in 1979. Luckily he had had the forsight to fill the engine brimful with castor oil when he parked it.
 

forblue

Member
Contact web site,V.H.G.M.C. i am a member cheap to join plenty of help on there,spares contact Meetens. they will be able to tell you what spares are available, your engine is likely to be a jap 600cc or 500cc...
 
Location
Suffolk
We had a Jap powered wheel-barrow hoist when building my parents house. It looked like sh1t but started every time every day it was needed.
I'd put money on your engine simply needing a clean and at the extreme a new piece of cork gasket here and there and presto it will run.
Personally I'd run it on Aspen 4 but I'm a fan of their fuel anyway.
Hire a van would be one way or take a load of whitworth tools and strip it to the point where it will fit in a car as these were almost always built like Mechano!(y)

SS
 

Mursal

Member
Sorry to hear about your dad. We have one of those Jap engines bought at an auction, probably luck but it started and ran without little or no work. So buy or even hire a trailer and enjoy the memories.
 

Adam@Rumen

Member
Location
Nantwich/Rishton
If you send me or post up your German postal code I can ask some of the companies I use for pallet haulage how much they would charge for shipping. The backend may need unbolting and packing to the top of the engine to ship on a single pallet, but check the rate first to see if it's a goer
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
@Cab-over Pete

Pete me old mucca
I had better give you all an update

So to start with dad died in 2015 and it took us a few years to sort things out
So the trusty was still at his place until this year.
So 2021 the local ferals broke in to dad's house and stole all the pipping flooding the place. Next disaster was the local Asian Community or at least the younger element broke in again and used the house as a drug den and eventually set fire to the place!!!!!!
So my father in law has been up and rescued the trusty and has it stored at his place near to Chippenham.

So where are we at now?
The engine was my big worry but turns out it shouldn't be spares are available and the engine isn't seized so not much work and I reckon we can get get her going without much trouble.
Now the big problem is she is sat in blighty and I need her hear in Central Germany........ How do I get a 1946 Trusty tractor complete with plough, disc harrows and spade lugs transported to the Fatherland without taking out a second mortgage 🙄
If anybody has a half decent answer shout up my eldest lad is dying to start a renovation.

Max
 
I seem to remember our BMB Plowmate was retrieved from Anglesey to Ringwood in the back of an 8x4 trailer with thick boards on the floor to prevent spade lug damage.It needed a hand puller/winch to get it up on the trailer. Or maybe it was a Transit Memories getting a bit dodgy. :)
 
The other way would be to dismantle it and take it in bits as they can't be very complicated. I picked up the heaviest bit of my Plowmate, a replacement big B&S ZZ engine and brought it home from Newbury showground in the back of our Skoda estate without much bother. You could get the engine back for junior to start work, then take the handles etc on subsequent family visits. Maybe hire a small economical van for a couple of journeys.
 
Bloody hell Max, you’ve had some grief, all on top of losing your Dad.

You could have stored it here mate, it would have been the least I could do. Anything else, you know where I am.

For guidance, getting a Zetros home cost £1500!

I could have a word with a haulier or two. If there’s no rush they could do it for sensible money, especially if your father in law could drop it at their yard.
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
Pete you have my attention 😉

If you have the time ask around, I am pretty sure it will be cheaper to put it on the back of a lorry than me hiring a van and coming back to blighty to pick it up.
Plus this corona sheit is proving to be a real challenge as to me visiting blighty 😠
Nö rush mucca but would love to get over here.

I like the Polish idea but all the good ones seem to have upped sticks ☹️
Thanks for the offer mate.

Max
 

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