UK and Japan agree historic free trade agreement

yep
could you quote anyone who said it wouldn't cost
I can find you a few who said the opposite, so by default there’s your answer. Sorry H I’m not cut out for your intellect today, go fishing somewhere else. I’m prepping ground for stewardship planting tomorrow. 👍
 
In the grand science of international trade, what's the difference between trading at a loss and having a trading deficit?
A very perceptive question, my simple answer would be the Japanese trade will be very profitable for those who can benefit (inc food and drink) but the deficit (Of the new deal) is around 90% in Japan’s favour. But in reality without giving Japan the 90% we would not get the 10%. IMO. Be interesting to see the opinions of others later when back indoors.
 

Henarar

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Call it an investment
when you buy a new tractor as soon as you get the tyres dirty it has lost you what ? 10/20% of the price ? so if you look at the decision to buy the new tractor at that point it has cost you money so it wasn't a good decision ? If that tractor goes on to give many years trouble free service over the next 50 years then overall it could well have been a great decision to buy it and you could have made lots of money from your investment.
the great thing about leaving the eu from a leave voters point of view is there is absolutely no way of knowing how we would have got on had we stuck with the old eu horse and cart simply because we didn't :cool:

That don't mean that lots of folk won't have their opinion on all the ifs buts and maybes, tell you what lets all meet back here in 50 years and see what we all think then shall we, when its been given a little bit of time to work :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Oh that's not the eu supporters I hear shouting that they won't be here in 50 years to find out so don't have that long is it ? and I thought all those with one foot in the grave voted leave :scratchhead:
 

Muck Spreader

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Limousin
A very perceptive question, my simple answer would be the Japanese trade will be very profitable for those who can benefit (inc food and drink) but the deficit (Of the new deal) is around 90% in Japan’s favour. But in reality without giving Japan the 90% we would not get the 10%. IMO. Be interesting to see the opinions of others later when back indoors.

The interesting bit is how much damage that 90% does to existing UK businesses. For example, if the Japanese can now import their cars direct into the UK tariff free, what's the point of their car plants in the UK. Especially in the event of a no deal as they would then incur tariffs if sold in the EU, whereas the Japanese ones wouldn't. :scratchhead:
 

Mek

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It's just a exaggerated guesstimate made up by remoaners. ie think of a number make up a number multiply them together and send it to the guardian and bbc , job done.
There’s none so blind as those that will not see! Do your own research from any source you like as you obviously don’t trust remainers
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
I see Liz Truss has actually agreed to the Japanese demands for more draconian state aid rules than the EU was asking for, in order to try and get this deal though. FFS :banghead:
 

Ashtree

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I see Liz Truss has actually agreed to the Japanese demands for more draconian state aid rules than the EU was asking for, in order to try and get this deal though. FFS :banghead:

Yes indeed. Here is some detail. And for all that surrender, poor Liz is still stuck with the Hi Ace full of Stilton. Very bad sport of the Japanese!
 

caveman

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East Sussex.
It takes a long time to negotiate a trade deal. Any trade deal! That’s a given!
It takes a comparative jiffy, to cut and past the provisions of an existing deal (EU Japan deal), throw a few minuscule irrelevant details on top, and claim it as your own. A BIG success.
Fact that it contributes zero incremental trade over the EU version, is merely an annoying footnote in history.
More embarrassingly perhaps, is the fact that being forced to accept a virtual carbon copy of the EU version, dramatically negates claims of new found “sovereignty”.
I note Liz, didn’t get to offload the pallet of Stilton in this version of the deal. But that’s ok! The plan is that Liz will stand up in Parliment next year, and announce with a
Hilarious, isn’t it. Get rid of the Stilton on some unsuspecting sod, while the home market enjoys Irish cheddar 🤪
It's an up cycling thing.
That stinking, mouldy, Irish excuse for Cheddar, is easily passed off as Stilton.
 

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