Very sick cow with crusting nasal discharge, mouth dripping and very poor

[Chasingmytail]

Vet seems to come up with list. Speak to another stating should be doing this and that now we are running around in circles here the poor thing is suffering. Closed herd high health, in calf AA

Very depressed, head down, heavy heavy breathing. Nose is pouring with mucus and mouth siliva.

When she came on Sunday she said could be IBR, Myco bovine now shes mentioned over the phone MCF yesterday
http://www.nadis.org.uk/disease-a-z/cattle/malignant-catarrhal-fever-mcf/

Ok, whats the plan anyone. Taken temp under 40. Seeing her and hearing here is really upsetting.

Should I phone up again and ask to speak to the vet that specialises in cattle illness and ask them to come out again? Getting to a point where its not right to continue like this.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Sounds like IBR to me

 

[Pistonbroke]

I had one sounding like that on foot and mouth year. Vet crapped himself when he first saw it but it was Malignant Catargh ( that might not be spelt right)

 

[multi power]

Vet seems to come up with list. Speak to another stating should be doing this and that now we are running around in circles here the poor thing is suffering. Closed herd high health, in calf AA

Very depressed, head down, heavy heavy breathing. Nose is pouring with mucus and mouth siliva.

When she came on Sunday she said could be IBR, Myco bovine now shes mentioned over the phone MCF yesterday
http://www.nadis.org.uk/disease-a-z/cattle/malignant-catarrhal-fever-mcf/

Ok, whats the plan anyone. Taken temp under 40. Seeing her and hearing here is really upsetting.

Should I phone up again and ask to speak to the vet that specialises in cattle illness and ask them to come out again? Getting to a point where its not right to continue like this.

What treatment did the vet prescribe ?

 

[cull cows]

Are her eyes watering it sounds like Ibr to me

 

[Doc]

Hope for IBR but sounds like MCF. Head and eye form.
Anti inflammatories and cover with broad spectrum antibiotics ( it’s a virus though).
Isolate.
Then cross your fingers.

 

[Chasingmytail]

Vet came yesterday (different) didnt think MCF as temp low and not atypical in lots of ways. He took 3 lots of bloods and jabbed with steroids however overnight deteriorated and died. Still doing bloods and be useful to know what it was.

Eyes were not watering.

Typical one of the nicest and calmist cows weve got and in-calf. He did say poss some kind of virus with poss liver damage. Expensive few days.

 

[Angus77]

It always happens to the nicest or best ones. Did the vets mention Fog fever? unfortunately I have seen this first hand in years gone by and the symptoms seem similar. Outcome with this was almost always death

 

[Paul E]

Ragwort poisoning?

 

[neilo]

Did the vet not take any bloods to confirm a diagnosis, or were they acting as blindly as we are on the forum?

 

[Princess Pooper]

Did the vet not take any bloods to confirm a diagnosis, or were they acting as blindly as we are on the forum?

Vet came yesterday (different) didnt think MCF as temp low and not atypical in lots of ways. He took 3 lots of bloods and jabbed with steroids however overnight deteriorated and died. Still doing bloods and be useful to know what it was.

Can you not read?

 

[neilo]

Can you not read?

Oops, I missed that bit.

 

[Chasingmytail]

Results are back from the bloods and confirmed MCF which is a shock. One way happy not IBr but gutted to lose a brilliant cow due to sheep. Ive never heard of it before. Terrible to watch the animal suffer for those days. Something to watch for in future.

http://www.nadis.org.uk/disease-a-z/cattle/malignant-catarrhal-fever-mcf/

 

[Becs]

Sympathies - I lost a very nice little heifer to this horrible disease last year. Typically she was one of my pets . It's a real pig that the test takes 2 weeks for the result - we had to cull her before we got the results as she was truly suffering.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

We’ve lost a couple over the past year or 2 with MCF, have a couple of bulling heifers tested positive again this year but seem to have caught them quick enough and they are making a good recovery, but how and why they are getting it is still a mystery as they are bought in calves, been in different fields than the others, not been in contact with sheep but yet still seem to be catching MCF from somewhere [emoji57]

 

[epfarms]

We’ve lost a couple over the past year or 2 with MCF, have a couple of bulling heifers tested positive again this year but seem to have caught them quick enough and they are making a good recovery, but how and why they are getting it is still a mystery as they are bought in calves, been in different fields than the others, not been in contact with sheep but yet still seem to be catching MCF from somewhere [emoji57]

Bringing an old thread back to life! Have just had a milking cow diagnosed with MCF. Never heard of it before. She’s recovered pretty well, symptoms never really that bad but she still can’t see very well. I saw you had some that recovered from it, did they loose their sight as well? She’s been isolated in a barn but is happily eating and milking so was just wondering what chances of her sight coming back are. She’s had it for at least 2 weeks, only just got lab results through from vets

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Had 1 that lost its sight and 1 that recovered, but normally you don’t catch them in time and lose them

 

[Pan mixer]

Bringing an old thread back to life! Have just had a milking cow diagnosed with MCF. Never heard of it before. She’s recovered pretty well, symptoms never really that bad but she still can’t see very well. I saw you had some that recovered from it, did they loose their sight as well? She’s been isolated in a barn but is happily eating and milking so was just wondering what chances of her sight coming back are. She’s had it for at least 2 weeks, only just got lab results through from vets

I lost a suckler cow to it last year, confirmed not IBR which was vets first thought.

Horrid how quick it died, upsetting that it was blind too.

 

[Chasingmytail]

I had to read a bit about it as I had little knowledge - they may temporary recover but the risk it it will reoccur later on and damage done by the virus unsure whether blindness will recover. May fully recover. I had to watch it suffering on the floor and kicking about as the OH said she may recover. After this I vowed to never let an animal suffer like this again.

There is no risk to the other bovine but my understanding is that the virus

NADIS Animal Health Skills - Malignant Catarrhal Fever (MCF)

NADIS is a unique online based animal health resource for farmers, vets and SQPs. The information is written by veterinary experts, peer-reviewed and presented in a practical format with a high visual clinical content to improve disease awareness and highlight disease prevention.

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Malignant Catarrhal Fever in Animals - Generalized Conditions - MSD Veterinary Manual

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https://www.sruc.ac.uk/media/lmwd4qsc/sruc-veterinary-services-monthly-report-february-2020.pdf

(PDF) Malignant catarrhal fever in cattle in the UK

PDF | On Nov 1, 2007, A Holliman and others published Malignant catarrhal fever in cattle in the UK | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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[epfarms]

I had to read a bit about it as I had little knowledge - they may temporary recover but the risk it it will reoccur later on and damage done by the virus unsure whether blindness will recover. May fully recover. I had to watch it suffering on the floor and kicking about as the OH said she may recover. After this I vowed to never let an animal suffer like this again.

There is no risk to the other bovine but my understanding is that the virus

NADIS Animal Health Skills - Malignant Catarrhal Fever (MCF)

NADIS is a unique online based animal health resource for farmers, vets and SQPs. The information is written by veterinary experts, peer-reviewed and presented in a practical format with a high visual clinical content to improve disease awareness and highlight disease prevention.

www.nadis.org.uk

Malignant Catarrhal Fever in Animals - Generalized Conditions - MSD Veterinary Manual

Learn about the veterinary topic of Malignant Catarrhal Fever in Animals. Find specific details on this topic and related topics from the MSD Vet Manual.

www.msdvetmanual.com

https://www.sruc.ac.uk/media/lmwd4qsc/sruc-veterinary-services-monthly-report-february-2020.pdf

(PDF) Malignant catarrhal fever in cattle in the UK

PDF | On Nov 1, 2007, A Holliman and others published Malignant catarrhal fever in cattle in the UK | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Thank you! Interesting reading. I’ll see how she does but will step in if she starts suffering. I would say her symptoms (apart from the eyes clouding) were mild after reading those articles. Did you ever have anymore or was it just a one off? Our neighbours sheep do get out on some of our grazing land so thinking that’s where it could have come from.