Walterp's Posts

[Ukjay]

Nice tractor, what was that foreign bird nattering on about

Who cares - I thought she was better than the tractor

 

[Bury the Trash]

Nice tractor, what was that foreign bird nattering on about

no idea, ....I find that the same as what Walterp wombles on about.....but she has the great advantage of being nice to look at.

 

[DrWazzock]

I don't see him talking down to farmers. Rather he has a view of farming by someone who comes into it from outside. I see this difference in outlook from most who come from other professions.

Comparing the ethos prevalent in different professions is like comparing apples and pears. The circumstances of farming shape farmers. The circumstances of solicitors shape them.

Farmers have to take what they are offered for their produce, give or take or few fluctuations. Solicitors and other service people add a bit on to their fees every year. You never walk into a solicitors office and say I'll offer you £50 per hour and there will be deductions if the quality isn't up to spec.

That's the difference that shapes the different attitudes and outlooks across different types of work. Its hardly a surprise is it?

 

[Raider112]

I used to like Walters posts the first time around, didn't always agree with them but they were thought provoking but now he just comes across as a bitter old man. The idea that farmers deserve all that's coming to them for daring to vote against their best interests and for their country's good represents all that is wrong with the modern world. Our Grandfathers signed up to their deaths, sometimes even lying about their age, prepared to die for their country. Our fathers worked for a pittance post war as they felt it was their duty to help feed their families in hard times. If we had a war now we would be knackered because all people are interested in is themselves. After the referendum result I rather naively thought our MP's would get together and work towards the best outcome for our country but they seem happy to ignore the parliamentary oath and would be quite happy to see us all suffer just so that they can say it serves you right. It's nothing short of treason in my eyes and the likes of Walter coming on here, along with others who can't accept a majority decision need to wind it in. I was leaning towards leave but not too bothered either way until Cameron said we need to stay in Europe and change it from within and then an unelected drunk from a one horse country like Luxembourg said nothing will change. That is probably the reason we are where we are now, I for one realised that this is our one chance to control our destiny and I'm glad I voted as I did, however it affects me.

 

[Hilly]

I used to like Walters posts the first time around, didn't always agree with them but they were thought provoking but now he just comes across as a bitter old man. The idea that farmers deserve all that's coming to them for daring to vote against their best interests and for their country's good represents all that is wrong with the modern world. Our Grandfathers signed up to their deaths, sometimes even lying about their age, prepared to die for their country. Our fathers worked for a pittance post war as they felt it was their duty to help feed their families in hard times. If we had a war now we would be knackered because all people are interested in is themselves. After the referendum result I rather naively thought our MP's would get together and work towards the best outcome for our country but they seem happy to ignore the parliamentary oath and would be quite happy to see us all suffer just so that they can say it serves you right. It's nothing short of treason in my eyes and the likes of Walter coming on here, along with others who can't accept a majority decision need to wind it in. I was leaning towards leave but not too bothered either way until Cameron said we need to stay in Europe and change it from within and then an unelected drunk from a one horse country like Luxembourg said nothing will change. That is probably the reason we are where we are now, I for one realised that this is our one chance to control our destiny and I'm glad I voted as I did, however it affects me.

Excellent post. well said.

 

[yellowbelly]

I used to like Walters posts the first time around, didn't always agree with them but they were thought provoking but now he just comes across as a bitter old man. The idea that farmers deserve all that's coming to them for daring to vote against their best interests and for their country's good represents all that is wrong with the modern world. Our Grandfathers signed up to their deaths, sometimes even lying about their age, prepared to die for their country. Our fathers worked for a pittance post war as they felt it was their duty to help feed their families in hard times. If we had a war now we would be knackered because all people are interested in is themselves. After the referendum result I rather naively thought our MP's would get together and work towards the best outcome for our country but they seem happy to ignore the parliamentary oath and would be quite happy to see us all suffer just so that they can say it serves you right. It's nothing short of treason in my eyes and the likes of Walter coming on here, along with others who can't accept a majority decision need to wind it in. I was leaning towards leave but not too bothered either way until Cameron said we need to stay in Europe and change it from within and then an unelected drunk from a one horse country like Luxembourg said nothing will change. That is probably the reason we are where we are now, I for one realised that this is our one chance to control our destiny and I'm glad I voted as I did, however it affects me.

 

[M-J-G]

I don't see him talking down to farmers. Rather he has a view of farming by someone who comes into it from outside. I see this difference in outlook from most who come from other professions.

He's not from outside, he's a farmers son and a farm owner.

I'm not sure of the last time I heard him post anything positive about a farmers in general.

 

[traineefarmer]

I used to like Walters posts the first time around, didn't always agree with them but they were thought provoking but now he just comes across as a bitter old man. The idea that farmers deserve all that's coming to them for daring to vote against their best interests and for their country's good represents all that is wrong with the modern world. Our Grandfathers signed up to their deaths, sometimes even lying about their age, prepared to die for their country. Our fathers worked for a pittance post war as they felt it was their duty to help feed their families in hard times. If we had a war now we would be knackered because all people are interested in is themselves. After the referendum result I rather naively thought our MP's would get together and work towards the best outcome for our country but they seem happy to ignore the parliamentary oath and would be quite happy to see us all suffer just so that they can say it serves you right. It's nothing short of treason in my eyes and the likes of Walter coming on here, along with others who can't accept a majority decision need to wind it in. I was leaning towards leave but not too bothered either way until Cameron said we need to stay in Europe and change it from within and then an unelected drunk from a one horse country like Luxembourg said nothing will change. That is probably the reason we are where we are now, I for one realised that this is our one chance to control our destiny and I'm glad I voted as I did, however it affects me.

Where is the MEGALIKE button?

 

[icanshootwell]

He’s the perfect poster- lob in a post normally “on message” and sit back and watch everyone argue over it for a long time. He must chuckle at home reading the posts... but rarely replying! He should be a politician!! I think that’s been suggested before!!

Thats the problem, there is to many politicians with his views in government, that,s why the country,s in the state its in.

 

[Clive]

The theory has gravity, but maybe not with all of the individuals suggested.

Chat Forums are often a victim of their own success, in that, the more topics that are discussed the less need there is for discussion. So prolific OPs are required for injections of chat to keep the momentum up.

I don't doubt that some members are generated. However, reality is often stranger than fiction, so the strange and weird chracters are most likely real.

We don’t run any fake users accounts on TFF - seriously we just don’t have the time and it’s busy enough without us needing to add stuff for the sake of it ! There are over 300,000 words added everyday, us adding a few more really would be a pee in the ocean !

Although against the rules It’s not impossible for users to have more than one identity on here but I really can’t think why anyone would bother frankly unless they were out to causes trouble / seriously need to get a life etc

 

[Clive]

I used to like Walters posts the first time around, didn't always agree with them but they were thought provoking but now he just comes across as a bitter old man. The idea that farmers deserve all that's coming to them for daring to vote against their best interests and for their country's good represents all that is wrong with the modern world. Our Grandfathers signed up to their deaths, sometimes even lying about their age, prepared to die for their country. Our fathers worked for a pittance post war as they felt it was their duty to help feed their families in hard times. If we had a war now we would be knackered because all people are interested in is themselves. After the referendum result I rather naively thought our MP's would get together and work towards the best outcome for our country but they seem happy to ignore the parliamentary oath and would be quite happy to see us all suffer just so that they can say it serves you right. It's nothing short of treason in my eyes and the likes of Walter coming on here, along with others who can't accept a majority decision need to wind it in. I was leaning towards leave but not too bothered either way until Cameron said we need to stay in Europe and change it from within and then an unelected drunk from a one horse country like Luxembourg said nothing will change. That is probably the reason we are where we are now, I for one realised that this is our one chance to control our destiny and I'm glad I voted as I did, however it affects me.

Sums it up perfectly for me,,, however I still like Walters posts, forums need to be full of opposing opinion and challenge views / beliefs

 

[icanshootwell]

Wally’s post always give me a good laugh first thing in the morning,it’s like reading a comic before you used to go to school

I was thinking more Miss Marple or driving Miss daisy kind of drivel. Or even a auto biography by a celebrity no one has heard of. Starts of with potential, but fades away after the 1st chapter.

 

[icanshootwell]

Nice tractor, what was that foreign bird nattering on about

She was basically saying, Fendt had let her down and she had to make do with this JD. or something like that, nice ass though.

 

[Martin Holden]

Sums it up perfectly for me,,, however I still like Walters posts, forums need to be full of opposing opinion and challenge views / beliefs

You have stated what I was thinking about in my earlier post, but you put it more eloquently!

 

[M-J-G]

Sums it up perfectly for me,,, however I still like Walters posts, forums need to be full of opposing opinion and challenge views / beliefs

Why do they need to be full of opposing opinion and challenge views / beliefs?

Isn't a unanimous conclusion a good result?

 

[Guy Smith]

how much time do you think I have !

Well 32,500 posts by you so far is pretty impressive Clive.

It makes my contribution look positively poor.

But I note I have the same 'Trophy points' as you - 113.

So I'm just intrigued to know what I've done to get them?

Are they like nectar points?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I disagree strongly

I disagree to the fact that you disagree with me, if you not like that you can feck off and argue the fact with Walt.

 

[Walterp]

Walterp's Right of Reply:

I think it's correct that the ethos among English farmers is outside the contemporary mainstream. Beyond debate, really - the references to 'yeomen farmer' and 'treason' are powerful arguments, alongside the rest of the illusion that - against the evidence of the UK's post-War history - this country is better than other European States. The evidence suggests otherwise.

Depressingly often, they have their heads collectively inserted up their arse. When, eventually, they remove their heads from there, they will find that we are no longer in the Middle Ages.

I wonder who they will blame when they discover this?

 

[stevedave]

Walterp's Right of Reply:

I think it's correct that the ethos among English farmers is outside the contemporary mainstream. Beyond debate, really - the references to 'yeomen farmer' and 'treason' are powerful arguments, alongside the rest of the illusion that - against the evidence of the UK's post-War history - this country is better than other European States.

Depressingly often, they have their heads collectively inserted up their arses. When, eventually, they remove their heads from there, they will find that we are no longer in the Middle Ages.

I wonder who the will blame when they discover this?

The people who are to blame are the politicians who sold us a pup. We were told in 1975 the EEC was a trading block but what they actually wanted was a socially engineered super state to compete with the US. If we had a trading block do you thing we would have left? Do you think there would be as much hostility to the EU as there is across Europe? The problem is the people in power want to force on with their vision and to hell with anyone who disagrees. At the start of the negotiations there was a statement from I think Mr.Barnier which said the institutions of the EU are the most important thing not the people of Europe this statement should tell you everything you need to know about the EUs intentions.

 

[Walterp]

The people who are to blame are the politicians who sold us a pup. We were told in 1975 the EEC was a trading block but what they actually wanted was a socially engineered super state to compete with the US. If we had a trading block do you thing we would have left? Do you think there would be as much hostility to the EU as there is across Europe? The problem is the people in power want to force on with their vision and to hell with anyone who disagrees. At the start of the negotiations there was a statement from I think Mr.Barnier which said the institutions of the EU are the most important thing not the people of Europe this statement should tell you everything you need to know about the EUs intentions.

I'm saddened that you believe this.

The EEC referendum was marked by bitter ideological divisions precisely because we had been informed that we were applying to join a political project. Who can forget Enoch Powell crossing the floor on this point of principle? Or the arguments over sovereignty that then ensued?

Devolution of power is enshrined in the EU as a founding principle. It is the latter part of the 'ever closer union' phrase.

That English farmers can be unaware of these facts - and the implications that they carry - shows that they do indeed have their heads inserted where facts and evidence are not readily available.

Instead, they are in close contact with their gut.