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Not much difference there. The main thing is that we trust the McHale to go from morning till midnight without problems, with Welger failing was nothing unexpected.Which makes the tightest bale?
Not much difference there. The main thing is that we trust the McHale to go from morning till midnight without problems, with Welger failing was nothing unexpected.Which makes the tightest bale?
Parts should be next day Andrew if ordered before 5pm that day, what part is it?
Parts should be next day Andrew if ordered before 5pm that day, what part is it?
It was actually the “CROP” as straw thrashed to dust by a rotary combine on a scorching hot afternoon ain’t for a round baler and SHOULD have actually been square baled. Trouble here is half a story is still only HALF the STORY ?
One of the Bale forming rollers above the rotor disintegrated on the 160. That’s only just been ordered today as far as I know but my comment on 4 days refers to previous occasions where Phillips struggled to get us bits quick enough. Sometimes 4 days wouldn’t hold the delay for stuff coming from Holland I think. We were down for over a week once but thankfully phillips had a demo roller baler to keep us going. Hopefully Agco have parts supply sorted now then!
Yep thought so.. touched on it in my last post. Exceptionally hot weather and straw... No round baler is getting straw tight in those conditions, simply can't compress the straw enough. We'd have stopped and gone back later on, it's amazing how much better straw bales at night.
Funny you mention square baled, we had some short(ish) barley last year that our square baler simply refused to pick up.. was infuriating.. so had to go get the round baler... More a problem with our old NH, newer ones have continuous feed rollers like a round baler i think..
Isn't straw normally baled in hot weather or am i missing something? i round baled in very hot conditions last year no issues at all. Bales as tight as usual. No cone shaped ones or broken ones.
You have just admitted that your round baler, a mchale, won't cope with straw in certain condition, as i have also found out , again with a mchale.
So it seems to answer @Fragonard original question, if you want to bale straw when its hot and dry. Avoid a Mchale, or wait until it cools down.
Isn't straw normally baled in hot weather or am i missing something? i round baled in very hot conditions last year no issues at all. Bales as tight as usual. No cone shaped ones or broken ones.
You have just admitted that your round baler, a mchale, won't cope with straw in certain condition, as i have also found out , again with a mchale.
So it seems to answer @Fragonard original question, if you want to bale straw when its hot and dry. Avoid a Mchale, or wait until it cools down.
A lot of fixed chamber balers struggle in very short shiny straw and hay in the heat of the day,particularly the ones with a feed plate for the net where there should be another roller(most JD and early McHales as I recall).Never had a problem with a Welger since RP12 days,and I have been called out to bale where others wont many times,including once last week.They will nearly all bale it when the dew comes down,but that's not really the point...Isn't straw normally baled in hot weather or am i missing something? i round baled in very hot conditions last year no issues at all. Bales as tight as usual. No cone shaped ones or broken ones.
You have just admitted that your round baler, a mchale, won't cope with straw in certain condition, as i have also found out , again with a mchale.
So it seems to answer @Fragonard original question, if you want to bale straw when its hot and dry. Avoid a Mchale, or wait until it cools down.
If the bale is exploding you need to put on more/better net.The problem with dry short straw is the bale stops turning in the chamber.It depends on the straw, if you've short brittle stuff like sticks from 6 row winter barley they can struggle. It's so dry you have to turn density right up to get weight in bale. Then they start exploding.
Think this would happen with any make of round baler, I've had it with McHale and welger.
Go back with square baler, it loves that stuff.
Before McHale balers arrived were welger not the king of round balers?
Yes they do and im not overly confident they will keep parts going for balers that Lely made for too long.They stopped making the Storm forager a couple years ago and already winding down part supply.The round balers they make now have changed a lot from even 3 years ago,im due to change in 2 years time and it probably wont be for another welger,its a real shame cos the present one is the best baler I have owned.Do welger/lely parts have to come via agco now?
What is itYes they do and im not overly confident they will keep parts going for balers that Lely made for too long.They stopped making the Storm forager a couple years ago and already winding down part supply.The round balers they make now have changed a lot from even 3 years ago,im due to change in 2 years time and it probably wont be for another welger,its a real shame cos the present one is the best baler I have owned.
There seems to be no clear winner, as to the best bales.Not much difference there. The main thing is that we trust the McHale to go from morning till midnight without problems, with Welger failing was nothing unexpected.
I would think just about any of the latest models of variable chamber Baler should put more in a bale than a fixed chamber!!Krone variable chamber v150 puts more in a bale than every model of McHale fixed chamber.