Welsh farmers in for rough 5 years

[startinghandle]

Earlier I just heard the tail end of phonein on radio wales where a farmer's wife talked about the next 5 years with reelected labour government being rough time for Welsh farmers

 

[john432]

It's been tough since the mad cow fiasco...25 year's ago...?

 

[vantage]

It used to be that farmers did well under a (national) Labour government, it can be see after 22 years that this is not the case in Wales, with ever more bs regulation, with top heavy administration. Creating jobs? Yes, in the third sector.

 

[Werzle]

NVZ's are going to cause alot of pain for them

 

[Tarw Coch]

Looking back across the border welsh government has been good to its farmers in some ways too, grants/help from farming connect that hasn’t been available in England and up until now most of wales has got off lightly with NVZ ‘s

 

[john432]

Looking back across the border welsh government has been good to its farmers in some ways too, grants/help from farming connect that hasn’t been available in England and up until now most of wales has got off lightly with NVZ ‘s

Where did the farming connect funds come from? Creamed off our single farm payments.. who gained most? The consultants...

 

[Tarw Coch]

NVZ's are going to cause alot of pain for them

True, they seem to be swinging from one extreme to another, currently one side of the border in with the other side out with fairly similar farming both sides.

 

[borderterribles]

Remind me, how has the Tb valuation been going for you guys in the Principality?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Where did the farming connect funds come from? Creamed off our single farm payments.. who gained most? The consultants...

Speaking of SFP, Wales did better than England with historic based payments.
When sfp first came out I picked up a card from carver knowles at the dairy event showing the difference in payments for a 1 million litre dairy farm over the following 10 years, the difference amounted to 100k in favour of the welsh dairy farmer and during that time this part of England went into an NVZ with no financial help, meanwhile just over the border a 40% grant was available to construct slurry storage via farming connect

 

[vantage]

Remind me, how has the Tb valuation been going for you guys in the Principality?

Remind me, how has the Tb situation been going for you guys in the Principality?
I’ve amended it, as you clearly haven’t got a clue.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Trouble is, the different regimes have got us squabbling amongst ourselves about who’s better/worse off, it would be better fir our industry if we were all under the same regime presenting a united case against anything unfair, instead it looks like a case of divided they rule us.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Trouble is, the different regimes have got us squabbling amongst ourselves about who’s better/worse off, it would be better fir our industry if we were all under the same regime presenting a united case against anything unfair, instead it looks like a case of divided they rule us.

Wales doesn’t have a monopoly on Tb, as I say, squabbling amongst ourselves

 

[borderterribles]

Remind me, how has the Tb situation been going for you guys in the Principality?
I’ve amended it, as you clearly haven’t got a clue.

Well, I think I have. Why should I accept my stock being taken at half their worth whilst farms, half a mile away in Wales, but in the same breakdown cluster area get their individually valued ?

 

[Hilly]

No change then, hardly a walk in the park at the best of times.

 

[vantage]

Well, I think I have. Why should I accept my stock being taken at half their worth whilst farms, half a mile away in Wales, but in the same breakdown cluster area get their individually valued ?

I’m sorry about your stock, but valuations have fallen hugely here. As an observer of the English Tb situation, it appears they are doing something, this is ABSOLUTELY not the case in Wales.

 

[Kevtherev]

Nothings easy with the job BUT stock prices seem to be on the up and holding.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Looking back across the border welsh government has been good to its farmers in some ways too, grants/help from farming connect that hasn’t been available in England and up until now most of wales has got off lightly with NVZ ‘s

I think the grants have been more generous in England.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Where did the farming connect funds come from? Creamed off our single farm payments.. who gained most? The consultants...

The consultants were paid silly money for inane stuff eg soil test reports. And they charged a lot for it, it was really wrong

 

[roscoe erf]

Nothings easy with the job BUT stock prices seem to be on the up and holding.

for now

 

[john432]

The consultants were paid silly money for inane stuff eg soil test reports. And they charged a lot for it, it was really wrong

Even things like a crop spraying course was vastly inflated in Wales...compared to over the border...when I pointed that out...but you'll get 80 percent funding.