Where is the Dairy Industry heading ?

[westwards]

With all the climate change bofins pointing the finger at farmers and cow fart etc etc, new rules on slurry and air quality we as an industry are in for a rough ride for the next few years.
Who is going to feed the nation if these so called experts get their way and cut ALL livestock numbers by 30%, who is fighting our corner and the politicians who all want to jump on the bandwagon with any chance they get to repeat all the climate buzwords?

 

[delilah]

who is fighting our corner

On farming today this morning they issued an apology. Evidently they had said earlier in the week that a cow produced a 1t of methane. Some chap from Cranfield University had been on to them and said it was actually 1t of co2 equivalent of methane. Which begged two questions: 1) Why had it taken someone from Cranfield to contact them, rather than a farming representative ? 2) Who is going to contact them and put them properly straight on the whole methane from cows bollox ?
All of the rest of your post stems from that. You have no representation.

 

[Bald Rick]

On farming today this morning they issued an apology. Evidently they had said earlier in the week that a cow produced a 1t of methane. Some chap from Cranfield University had been on to them and said it was actually 1t of co2 equivalent of methane. Which begged two questions: 1) Why had it taken someone from Cranfield to contact them, rather than a farming representative ? 2) Who is going to contact them and put them properly straight on the whole methane from cows bollox ?
All of the rest of your post stems from that. You have no representation.

Too busy pulling tits and trying to keep the wolf from the door for most of us

(I would also direct your attention to my thread in Agricultural Matters on the Times Leader. There is a very strong anti livestock movement developing )

 

[delilah]

Too busy pulling tits and trying to keep the wolf from the door for most of us

Which is why you pay subs and levies.

 

[Bald Rick]

Which is why you pay subs and levies.

Yeah but the sh!t is coming from every direction.... see my revised post above

 

[delilah]

Yeah but the sh!t is coming from every direction.... see my revised post above

Well it will do seeing as the industry has spent the last x years holding its hand in the air and squealing "Guilty as charged". Every day that goes by with the NFU, the AHDB et al saying that cows are causing climate change, is a day closer to your demise.

 

[bigw]

Well it will do seeing as the industry has spent the last x years holding its hand in the air and squealing "Guilty as charged". Every day that goes by with the NFU, the AHDB et al saying that cows are causing climate change, is a day closer to your demise.

NFU and AHDB dont say that cows are causing climate change but are working with the reduction targets set out by our government. You seem to have a real anger towards them which doesnt really help with the debate. Agriculture is such an easy target as we have a fragmented supply base with no united voice unfortunately.

 

[delilah]

NFU and AHDB dont say that cows are causing climate change

Yes they do.

 

[delilah]

You seem to have a real anger towards them which doesnt really help with the debate.

I get a bit bored with that line tbh. What doesn't help is the majority who say nothing and do nothing. I make plenty of positive suggestions.

 

[bigw]

I get a bit bored with that line tbh. What doesn't help is the majority who say nothing and do nothing. I make plenty of positive suggestions.

You seem to hijack every thread on the subject which is pretty tiresome

 

[delilah]

You seem to hijack every thread on the subject which is pretty tiresome

I answered the OP. You brought me into it..

 

[delilah]

You seem to hijack every thread on the subject which is pretty tiresome

In for a penny.
Well done the AHDB. They have - for,the very first time - made a stab at explaining methane/ short cycle/ carbon sequestration on their website.

https://weeatbalanced.com/can-you-e...an-have-a-positive-impact-on-the-environment/

It says that has been put up today. Again, well done. Everyone share.

 

[delilah]

And a quick scan of their website suggests they have taken the below graphic down. Just as well I saved it. They should never, ever have gone down this line of pleading guilty on climate change. If they have taken it down because of a change in tactics, then great.

 

[delilah]

Are the NFU similarly going to change tactics ? Because until now their line has been the same as the AHDB
"Yes, we know cows are destroying the planet, sorry, there are less of them than there was, and they aren't as bad as foreign cows, and we will change their diet to reduce their burps, please bear with us. Sorry again".

 

[tepapa]

And a quick scan of their website suggests they have taken the below graphic down. Just as well I saved it. They should never, ever have gone down this line of pleading guilty on climate change. If they have taken it down because of a change in tactics, then great.

If they plan to go down this route, they should say, apparently agriculture is producing 5% of UK's co2 which means the other 95% is caused by your heating, your transport, your foreign holidays, manufacturing of the products you use and constructing the houses you live in, unnecessary products you buy or a change in fashion.

 

[delilah]

If they plan to go down this route, they should say, apparently agriculture is producing 5% of UK's co2 which means the other 95% is caused by your heating, your transport, your foreign holidays, manufacturing of the products you use and constructing the houses you live in, unnecessary products you buy or a change in fashion.

It looks like they have abandoned that '5% of the problem' line. Quite right to. We can leave the polluters to slug that one out among themselves.

 

[delilah]

NFU and AHDB dont say that cows are causing climate change

https://www.nfuonline.com/nfu-online/sectors/dairy/mythbuster-final/