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Which bulk tank?

rangerdf

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BASIS
I'm looking at changing our 2 Fabdec tanks for a 22000 litre tank plus condenser etc. Can anyone give me an idea of what it should cost and a rough value of the old tanks 8000 litre and 10000 litre. Tia
 

Farm buy

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Livestock Farmer
I'm looking at changing our 2 Fabdec tanks for a 22000 litre tank plus condenser etc. Can anyone give me an idea of what it should cost and a rough value of the old tanks 8000 litre and 10000 litre. Tia
Are they 3phase or sig
I'm looking at changing our 2 Fabdec tanks for a 22000 litre tank plus condenser etc. Can anyone give me an idea of what it should cost and a rough value of the old tanks 8000 litre and 10000 litre. Tia
What gas is in them and what power are the compressors, are the 3 phase or single phase.
 

Farm buy

Member
Livestock Farmer
The gas seems to have got very expensive in the last couple of years. Anyone else noticed that ?
Some types of gas are banned by law now but if you have that gas your allowed keep it but your fitters can't top up as it not available to buy.I am open to correction on that but a fitter said that to me one day.
 

Agrispeed

Member
Location
Cornwall
Some types of gas are banned by law now but if you have that gas your allowed keep it but your fitters can't top up as it not available to buy.I am open to correction on that but a fitter said that to me one day.

I was told that too, and the fitters seem quite keen for people to change over too. The latest generation of gasses (R22's replacements replacement) need a system flush and a different oil to switch. However, they are apparently very efficient. My new system was apparently one of the first installed using XB40(?) as a trial and I haven't had any problems so far, apart from having to change the return line as it was too slow and dropping oil out the gas, but this was done for free (y).
 

rangerdf

Member
BASIS
They are all 3 phase I'm not sure which gas they take but I think it would be safe to say it's not the currently approved refrigerant
 

Tullyvernon

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ulster
I was told that too, and the fitters seem quite keen for people to change over too. The latest generation of gasses (R22's replacements replacement) need a system flush and a different oil to switch. However, they are apparently very efficient. My new system was apparently one of the first installed using XB40(?) as a trial and I haven't had any problems so far, apart from having to change the return line as it was too slow and dropping oil out the gas, but this was done for free (y).

Unfortunately the replacement refrigerants run higher discharge pressures and possibly less efficient than the likes of r22.

I wonder is it R448/449 is in your system?

The main reason r404 has got so expensive is that in order to reduce global warning those in their wisdom in the eu have put a quota on those 'harmful gases ' and as there is great demand the manufacturers can charge what they want!!

Same as cars and tractors have got more expensive to meet emissions criteria as has the refrigeration industry.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
How are people transferring milk from the buffer to the main tank?
I had thought of piggy backing the buffer tank above the main tank ,but the dairy engineer says there will be a problem wahing the pipe from the milk pump to the tank.
Looking for ideas as the proposed new dairy is unlikely to be wide enough for side to side tanks so may have to be end to end if not piggy backed.
 
How are people transferring milk from the buffer to the main tank?
I had thought of piggy backing the buffer tank above the main tank ,but the dairy engineer says there will be a problem wahing the pipe from the milk pump to the tank.
Looking for ideas as the proposed new dairy is unlikely to be wide enough for side to side tanks so may have to be end to end if not piggy backed.

We have replaced the wash pump on the buffer tank with one fit to transfer the milk. The pipe from it can then either connect to the main tank for milk transfer or back to the buffer tank to wash. this ensures the transfer pipe is always washed. The pump can either be operated by the wash system or by an override switch that is used when transferring the milk.
 

dinderleat

Member
Location
Wells
Dx tanks wash pumps are basically milk pumps so a pipe on outlet will pump easily into a bulk tank by just putting the wash cap on then an over ride switch to start pump, then with a return back into the wash system to clean the pipe if that makes sense??
 

arbel

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
I like to think that any British farmer contemplating buying a new milk cooling tank opts for a British manufactured vat and specifies that it is fitted with our new Commander control - designed and manufactured in Great Britain. Comes with integral data logging and much much more. Support British industry - we support you - www.arbelelectronics.co.uk
 

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dinderleat

Member
Location
Wells
I like to think that any British farmer contemplating buying a new milk cooling tank opts for a British manufactured vat and specifies that it is fitted with our new Commander control - designed and manufactured in Great Britain. Comes with integral data logging and much much more. Support British industry - we support you - www.arbelelectronics.co.uk

Depends on price and reliability. Where it is made doesn’t really make any difference but making my business more profitable does.
 

Graham2123

New Member
you Need to use a “food grade” pump. So a milk pump incorporated into the wash system.
Or if you want a simple way put a milk pump on your tank outlet and hose to the fill of your tank. And plug the pump into a socket when used.
Flush with water after I guess.
 

arbel

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
Depends on price and reliability. Where it is made doesn’t really make any difference but making my business more profitable does.
You're right of course. Same attitude that the public have when it comes to buying food. Add to price and reliability, efficiency, quality of back-up, cost of spare parts and I'm sure you would make the right decision.
 
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