Why is this happening????

[richard hammond]

I have today travelled from Spilsby to Cromer and I cannot believe how many fields of drilled cereal crops have had a pre-em applied in shocking conditions, the crops were obviously only just mauled in (and they look crap) who recd a crop which was likely to fail given the weather conditions to be sprayed with a hold it back weed killer?? Black grass or not this year see a crop before spending money!! By the way the sprayer wheelings are deep and full of H2O what a mess,, CRIMINAL!!

 

[Hindsight]

I have today travelled from Spilsby to Cromer and I cannot believe how many fields of drilled cereal crops have had a pre-em applied in shocking conditions, the crops were obviously only just mauled in (and they look crap) who recd a crop which was likely to fail given the weather conditions to be sprayed with a hold it back weed killer?? Black grass or not this year see a crop before spending money!! By the way the sprayer wheelings are deep and full of H2O what a mess,, CRIMINAL!!

I always make the correct decisions with hindsight.

 

[Tractor Boy]

Because for the past 5 years Agronomists have said “if you can’t spray it, don’t drill it”

 

[DrWazzock]

This is why I'd rather wait till February now and go cheap and cheerful herbicide later in the spring. A big dose of residuals now on a mauled in crop is bonkers IMO.

 

[richard hammond]

I always make the correct decisions with hindsight.

No hindsight was required this year just common sense to see those fields would make you wonder why!!

 

[richard hammond]

Because for the past 5 years Agronomists have said “if you can’t spray it, don’t drill it”

Are you the actual pay master!! also this year is a BIT different!

 

[richard hammond]

This is why I'd rather wait till February now and go cheap and cheerful herbicide later in the spring. A big dose of residuals now on a mauled in crop is bonkers IMO.

Absolutely correct ,

 

[Tractor Boy]

Are you the actual pay master!! also this year is a BIT different!

What do you mean “the actual pay master”?

 

[spin cycle]

I have today travelled from Spilsby to Cromer and I cannot believe how many fields of drilled cereal crops have had a pre-em applied in shocking conditions, the crops were obviously only just mauled in (and they look crap) who recd a crop which was likely to fail given the weather conditions to be sprayed with a hold it back weed killer?? Black grass or not this year see a crop before spending money!! By the way the sprayer wheelings are deep and full of H2O what a mess,, CRIMINAL!!

could they've just had aphicide?...or is it ,to the trained eye, obvious?....passing thru my 'manor' i don't reckon wheelings are to bad fakenham to cromer

 

[richard hammond]

What do you mean “the actual pay master”?

You buy the inputs

 

[richard hammond]

could they've just had aphicide?...or is it ,to the trained eye, obvious?....passing thru my 'manor' i don't reckon wheelings are to bad fakenham to cromer

In the majority of fields there is no crop showing, just a sloppy seed bed mess, so I hope it was not for aphids,

 

[spin cycle]

In the majority of fields there is no crop showing, just a sloppy seed bed mess, so I hope it was not for aphids,

ah yes...see what you mean

 

[Tractor Boy]

You buy the inputs

Oh I see what you mean. I haven’t personally got any mauled in wheat as my 750 only ran for 2 days on Oct 9th and 10th. I do my own agronomy and buy the inputs myself. Mine are all sprayed but being Dd you can hardly see the tramlines now except headland ones.
I was just putting forward the point that a lot of people seemed desperate to drill whatever the conditions and have been told over the years to spray pre em no matter what.
I agree this year is wet and nowhere near ideal to spray.

 

[Tractor Boy]

You buy the inputs

Oh I see what you mean. I haven’t personally got any mauled in wheat as my 750 only ran for 2 days on Oct 9th and 10th. I do my own agronomy and buy the inputs myself. Mine are all sprayed but being Dd you can hardly see the tramlines now except headland ones.
I was just putting forward the point that a lot of people seemed desperate to drill whatever the conditions and have been told over the years to spray pre em no matter what.
I agree this year is wet and nowhere near ideal to spray.

 

[Clive]

who recd a crop which was likely to fail given the weather conditions to be sprayed with a hold it back weed killer??

Salesmen whose bosses have sheds full of Ag Chem to sell ....................

 

[Clive]

could they've just had aphicide?...or is it ,to the trained eye, obvious?....passing thru my 'manor' i don't reckon wheelings are to bad fakenham to cromer

even more criminal to have sprayed wheat for aphids this year, especially recently

 

[richard hammond]

even more criminal to have sprayed wheat for aphids this year, especially recently

Pre em for aphids ???? what a joke/criminal.!!

 

[spin cycle]

even more criminal to have sprayed wheat for aphids this year, especially recently

Pre em for aphids ???? what a joke/criminal.!!

whoa ...i'm outta arable now so outta the 'loop'....there are lots of emerged crops round here so i was speculating......mind you with the weather/forecast i agree with op...it is probably criminal cos even i remember that many autumn sprays shouldn't be applied if heavy rain expected in next fortnight?

 

[Heathland]

even more criminal to have sprayed wheat for aphids this year, especially recently

Why is it criminal to have sprayed wheat this year,when we have lost deter?

 

[yellow belly]

I agree richard in 2012 I got pre ems on as soon as I drilled mostly first 3 weeks of October
wheat had no vigour all winter and then a cold March April half the wheat was replanted with spring barley because it did no grow on even though it had n early
there is also the problem that the amount of rain has washed out any Available n in the soil
this year cover crops have no go and are a 1/4 the crop last year due to no n in the soil
if I was planting any crops now it would be on bg free land and no pre em wheat and beans especially