Wormer and Vit Drench
- Thread starter keany1976
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- Location
- Isle of Skye
Yes, some wormers have added minerals and vitamins anyway so check the label. Sometimes it's possible to mix the two doses and administer as one, but mixes can sometimes curdle and not only feck your gun up but you end up having to throw away all the dose you bought... according to a friend of mine of course... so anyway, I've never mixed them again.
Just done it today
Yes, we do it all the time 
M-J-G
Member
I don't understand the whole mineral drench concept.
- Location
- Isle of Skye
The main concept is that once you've used it then you must continue to use it for evermore or you might be risking your lambs being worse than the previous years.
Aspiring Peasants
Member
- Location
- North Pennines
Ours usually get a mineral drench or 2 before they’re big enough to bolus, they get their final one the day they’re bolussed. TE deficiencies really knock sheep IME
M-J-G
Member
I don't believe that giving a drench every month or two can be helping that animal for any more than a few days.
I just chuck some powdered minerals in a tub in the field so that can access them on a daily basis.
I just chuck some powdered minerals in a tub in the field so that can access them on a daily basis.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I guess it depends what deficiencies your forage has, if any at all. Copper and Selenium are stored in the body to a degree iirc, but cobalt and iodine are passed through within a day or so.
Drench companies will wax lyrical about their products having 'chelated' cobalt, which passes through the rumen and gets stored but, as a vet pointed out to me, cobalt only feeds the rumen bacteria, which then produce vit B12, which the sheep needs. If it passes through the rumen then it doesn't feed those bacteria at all. She advised that I should run a mile if any drench company starts on about chelates.
Troy B12 injection is far more effective for supplementing Cobalt deficiency IME.
- Location
- JanDeGrootLand
Defo. I think often the vit part is most important. @Guleesh has said mixing. Not approved by makers. If you do make sure you get the dose of the wormer right.
I prefer to give min/vit drench half rate but twice as often as recomended.
- Location
- Cheshire
We used to buy multi Vit drench that was for mixing with wormer. Killed drench guns like there was no tomorrow. Can’t remember what it was called, I was only a kid but remember being given the tubs to shake up well. Nowadays we just drenchwith multi Vit and chase it down with wormer 
Our lambs bloom fo a couple of weeks after multi vit drench. 2 an a half litre bottle £60 so not much for each lamb for the boost they get plus you know all of them have had it. With a bucket or powder minerals, who knows what heads have been in.
JD-Kid
Member
- Location
- Akaroa.. New Zealand
yep agree did a bit of a trial year ago
38 lambs per group
1 week
2 weeks
4 weekly
4 weekly diffrent product
and none
they did not have a worm drench before going in to trial
the ones drenched each week did not do any better than the ones drenched 2 weekly but did see the 4 weekly ones drop off at week 3
did a FEC at 4 weeks the ones on week and 2 weekly had dropped to 0 ones not drenched at all had a slight lift from the starting FEC count
main thing I felt having an efect was the Colbalt the main product used also had B12 in it
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