Young Farmers The End ?

[Derrick Hughes]

Why can't young people have fun without first having a skin full

 

[Steevo]

Seems to me anyone who hasn’t been a YFC member thinks badly....anyone who has been a member shared a different view.

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

My opinion is it's embarrassing for the industry and doesn't help the negative public opinion. Never been on AGM but know many that have and I've heard the stories of anti social antics. The local yfc have a bad reputation locally having been banned from most pubs and the area through bad language, food fights and general idiocy.
p.s before someone says it, I'm not a grumpy old man I'm a 22yo farm worker and non member

Get yourself signed up and see it's not all that. I used to think like you before I joined, best thing I ever did, wish I joined sooner!

 

[thesilentone]

To keep things is perspective, I think we need to distinguish between what could be classed as high-jinks and tomfoolery, and what everyone witnessed in Blackpool.

It is well known and expected that one or two will not be able to handle the Lemonade, and go a little OTT, however in Blackpool this year, one or two crossed the line - badly. They were aggressive, abusive and acted like vandals. Not the image ANYONE would want to portray.

As we go through a phase of young people, who (for various reasons) cannot express themselves without being inebriated, then the consequences of poor behavior can be dire for there business, or them personally. We now live in the World of multi-media, where in a moment you can create an incident that can go viral and across the World in moments, worse still in real time.

So, what do the NFYFC do about Media Management for it's members ?

 

[Wolds Beef]

NFYFC Should try and contain the problem! The answer is to take the event away from crowded public places. Using a Showground, a festival feel could be created camping, caravans, tents, even clean Livestock boxes could be used. Competitions, Have a go experiences, Climbing walls, Fly casting, Laser shooting and so on. An evening of trying local food and beer!! a large dance as usual on the 2nd Night and maybe a Kareoke Night (Heaven Forbid!!) Good job I'm 62!! Old enough to volunteer as a steward if it was held in Lincolnshire!!
WB

 

[Vader]

Here is a thought to get you all going ...
Maybe Yf ending would be good for farming.
Farmers seem to socialise with farmers.
Don't mix with public enough.
So public don't know our industry enough.

I was a member for maybe a month.
I asked myself why do I want to talk about farming and farming based events to other farmers when you work on a farm all day??
It's all members seemed to do.
I wanted to do non farming stuff in my spare time and meet more women!

So Quit and went out for nights out with non farming mates from school.
When I get chatting to people and they ask what I do, I say farmer. All the conversation ends up round me as so few people know or understand farming.
End up chatting about farming in a light hearted way that's not crop yields and bad side of farming.
I educate non farmers most Friday and sat night in pubs and clubs and it's easy way to keep chatting to women!

Yf talk to other farmers...

 

[yellow belly]

NFYFC Should try and contain the problem! The answer is to take the event away from crowded public places. Using a Showground, a festival feel could be created camping, caravans, tents, even clean Livestock boxes could be used. Competitions, Have a go experiences, Climbing walls, Fly casting, Laser shooting and so on. An evening of trying local food and beer!! a large dance as usual on the 2nd Night and maybe a Kareoke Night (Heaven Forbid!!) Good job I'm 62!! Old enough to volunteer as a steward if it was held in Lincolnshire!!
WB

In the 1990s they did in a butlins holiday camp made headlines then
After the regions held area weekends in butlins camps

Remember young farmers is organised by young people for young people
To day with every one having a smart phone what happens gets recorded
This does not excuse bad behaviour

 

[yellow belly]

Here is a thought to get you all going ...
Maybe Yf ending would be good for farming.
Farmers seem to socialise with farmers.
Don't mix with public enough.
So public don't know our industry enough.

I was a member for maybe a month.
I asked myself why do I want to talk about farming and farming based events to other farmers when you work on a farm all day??
It's all members seemed to do.
I wanted to do non farming stuff in my spare time and meet more women!

So Quit and went out for nights out with non farming mates from school.
When I get chatting to people and they ask what I do, I say farmer. All the conversation ends up round me as so few people know or understand farming.
End up chatting about farming in a light hearted way that's not crop yields and bad side of farming.
I educate non farmers most Friday and sat night in pubs and clubs and it's easy way to keep chatting to women!

Yf talk to other farmers...

The majority of the members in my yfc were not from a farming background
But in many rural towns yfc is the only option for a youth movement that is run by young people

 

[Tarw Coch]

Here is a thought to get you all going ...
Maybe Yf ending would be good for farming.
Farmers seem to socialise with farmers.
Don't mix with public enough.
So public don't know our industry enough.

I was a member for maybe a month.
I asked myself why do I want to talk about farming and farming based events to other farmers when you work on a farm all day??
It's all members seemed to do.
I wanted to do non farming stuff in my spare time and meet more women!

So Quit and went out for nights out with non farming mates from school.
When I get chatting to people and they ask what I do, I say farmer. All the conversation ends up round me as so few people know or understand farming.
End up chatting about farming in a light hearted way that's not crop yields and bad side of farming.
I educate non farmers most Friday and sat night in pubs and clubs and it's easy way to keep chatting to women!

Yf talk to other farmers...

Ok, so YFC didn’t work for you, it’s not compulsory, it’s no reason to say it might not be a bad thing to see it go.
As said by others, YFC attracts a lot of non farmers, and it’s not compulsory for members to only mix with other members and talk farming.
Of my closest mates when I was In YFC, one was a welder, one had a shop in town and one was a mechanic.

 

[stewart]

Why can't young people have fun without first having a skin full

Same goes for older people.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Why can't young people have fun without first having a skin full

Don’t know, I’ve drank my fair share of pop in my time and had some good laughs along the way.
I guess it’s a bit like asking why some can’t go for a good night out without getting in a scrap, a fight at the end of the night seems to be the highlight for some, me, I want food and sleep.

 

[Wolds Beef]

Saturday Nights alright for fighting!! at a Mkt Rasen Pub. So wrote Bernie Taupin. Mkt Rasen YFC did not take his advise!!
WB

 

[yellowbelly]

NFYFC Should try and contain the problem! The answer is to take the event away from crowded public places. Using a Showground, a festival feel could be created camping, caravans, tents, even clean Livestock boxes could be used. Competitions, Have a go experiences, Climbing walls, Fly casting, Laser shooting and so on. An evening of trying local food and beer!! a large dance as usual on the 2nd Night and maybe a Kareoke Night (Heaven Forbid!!) Good job I'm 62!! Old enough to volunteer as a steward if it was held in Lincolnshire!!
WB

One of 'your better ideas' @Wolds Beef

Get yourself some shares bought in Tom Woods and Batemans breweries and 'crack on'

 

[Wolds Beef]

Bump

 

[deleted user 837354]

I would assume that anyone who was a member of an organisation would be severely reprimanded if they were found to be bringing that organisation into disrepute?

I can't help but feel that the entire industry suffered a huge amount of negative PR from the events in Blackpool and anyone even remotely connected to the industry should be justifiably outraged.

 

[Hampton]

Just read Matt Naylor’s column in this weeks farmers weekly. I publicly roasted him on TFF a few years ago, but i’d now like to doff my cap. His idea for young farmers AGM is superb. If the NFYFC don’t put his proposals into practice then they are making a grave mistake. Well done sir!

 

[Steevo]

Just read Matt Naylor’s column in this weeks farmers weekly. I publicly roasted him on TFF a few years ago, but i’d now like to doff my cap. His idea for young farmers AGM is superb. If the NFYFC don’t put his proposals into practice then they are making a grave mistake. Well done sir!

Agreed. Keeping the money in the community seems much more sensible.

It's interesting how NFYFC are bothered about their £100,000 black hole as a result of the AGM.....I'd hate to think what black hole Blackpool themselves will have.

If AGM was repurposed along the lines of keeping the money within the community....NFYFC wouldn't have a money problem at all, let alone needing continual annual increases. They'd no doubt attract masses of sponsorship for such an event as well I would expect.

 

[Hampton]

Agreed. Keeping the money in the community seems much more sensible.

It's interesting how NFYFC are bothered about their £100,000 black hole as a result of the AGM.....I'd hate to think what black hole Blackpool themselves will have.

If AGM was repurposed along the lines of keeping the money within the community....NFYFC wouldn't have a money problem at all, let alone needing continual annual increases. They'd no doubt attract masses of sponsorship for such an event as well I would expect.

Exactly. A friend of mine near Ashby de la zouche told me several years ago that they had got fed up of burger ice cream trucks taking all the food custom at their local Ag show. So a few of them got together, kicked off the vans and did the catering themselves. Lamb and beef burgers, hot dogs bacon sandwiches and pulled pork etc. Ice cream from local dairy farms and so on. The food tents had never been so popular and the money went into the pockets of the local farmers. A roaring success

 

[Steevo]

Exactly. A friend of mine near Ashby de la zouche told me several years ago that they had got fed up of burger ice cream trucks taking all the food custom at their local Ag show. So a few of them got together, kicked off the vans and did the catering themselves. Lamb and beef burgers, hot dogs bacon sandwiches and pulled pork etc. Ice cream from local dairy farms and so on. The food tents had never been so popular and the money went into the pockets of the local farmers. A roaring success

Win win all round.

Customers get quality food at the same price.
Local suppliers keep trading
Show gets more support.

 

[Wolds Beef]

Is Matt Naylor still on TFF? I applaud his article. Lincolnshire showground host an event called Poacher! 5500 scouts and guides and 3000 volunteers. So the ground has the inferstructure and know how to do such an event. Is NFYFC watching this thread or anyone in authority at NFYFC. If so would they care to comment?
WB