New, simple grain store ideas

Rabbit Wolverine · Jul 29, 2018

I was told yesterday by the guy we store the majority of our grain is that he's going to store caravans from next year, so will need to look for alternative storage.
We haven't any suitable buildings to convert as they are stock sheds so will probably be a new build.
Current storage requirements would need to be around 1000 t wheat, 300 t barley, 300 t oats, 200 t OSR and 200 t beans.
Also thinking that a mobile 30 t dryer would be more flexible and cheaper than a fixed one.
Would prefer to handle grain with telehandler rather than conveyers and augers.
Building needs to be simple, efficient and cost effective.
Any ideas, drawings, pictures and/or guide prices would be very much appreciated

TIA

Bobthebuilder · Jul 29, 2018

simple solution would be 1 big shed with concrete panel partitions

Badshot · Jul 29, 2018

Bobthebuilder said:
simple solution would be 1 big shed with concrete panel partitions

100 foot across, 22 foot to eaves minimum, divide it in 20 foot bays with your panels, roller door on each bay. Get about 400 tonnes of wheat in each bay.
7 bays, or stretch it to 8 for expansion and ease of use.
Simple, but not cheap

Rabbit Wolverine · Jul 29, 2018

Badshot said:
100 foot across, 22 foot to eaves minimum, divide it in 20 foot bays with your panels, roller door on each bay. Get about 400 tonnes of wheat in each bay.
7 bays, or stretch it to 8 for expansion and ease of use.
Simple, but not cheap

100 ft divided into 20 ft bays is 5 bays, would 2 60 ft wide sheds split into 3 bays each work out cheaper?

RWG Contracts · Jul 29, 2018

I saw this one on Facebook and thought it’s a tidy idea

Badshot · Jul 29, 2018

Rabbit Wolverine said:
100 ft divided into 20 ft bays is 5 bays, would 2 60 ft wide sheds split into 3 bays each work out cheaper?

I was guessing a bit.
I've a 60 x 100 shed split in the middle, I get about 5-600 tonnes of heavy 78kg/hl wheat each side.
So guessed if you had a 100 foot wide shed with 7 bays across it (=140 foot long) you'd get 400 tonnes of wheat in each bay, so 3 bays for your wheat with spare capacity for varietal changes etc.
And a further 4 bays for your other crops to have one each.
It might be cheaper to do smaller sheds, but multiples to get the same number of bays.

carbonfibre farmer · Jul 29, 2018

Badshot said:
I was guessing a bit.
I've a 60 x 100 shed split in the middle, I get about 5-600 tonnes of heavy 78kg/hl wheat each side.
So guessed if you had a 100 foot wide shed with 7 bays across it (=140 foot long) you'd get 400 tonnes of wheat in each bay, so 3 bays for your wheat with spare capacity for varietal changes etc.
And a further 4 bays for your other crops to have one each.
It might be cheaper to do smaller sheds, but multiples to get the same number of bays.

How high are you piling it up to get the 500-600t in?

Rabbit Wolverine · Jul 29, 2018

Badshot said:
I was guessing a bit.
I've a 60 x 100 shed split in the middle, I get about 5-600 tonnes of heavy 78kg/hl wheat each side.
So guessed if you had a 100 foot wide shed with 7 bays across it (=140 foot long) you'd get 400 tonnes of wheat in each bay, so 3 bays for your wheat with spare capacity for varietal changes etc.
And a further 4 bays for your other crops to have one each.
It might be cheaper to do smaller sheds, but multiples to get the same number of bays.

Sorry, i misunderstood your layout, i get it now.

RWG Contracts said:
I saw this one on Facebook and thought it’s a tidy idea

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Like that setup although I'd have my drier unloading at the entrance and push the grain to back wall, with having the dryer indoor cause condensation on the roof?

B R C · Jul 29, 2018

Having taken down the last of my bins last winter(hurray) I am just working on finishing my simple but hopefull fairly efficient and easy to use set up. Just two sheds one has been up 15years and have just put partition wall down the middle, the other open fronted with lean too(yet to go up)to main shed providing two more bays. Mobile drier will sit towards front of open shed and empty over partition wall into lean too. Dry grain bucketed to where it’s going to be stored.
Trying to keep it very simple and just as important to build something that can be repurposed in the future.
In your case @Rabbit Wolverine i would build an extra open bay at the front of shed to house mobile drier which would then directly empty into the front of shed. Was due to concreted last Fri but early harvest caught me out, now being done this Fri. If you manage the build yourself it doesn’t cost as much as per tonne as the figures I hear quoted.

carbonfibre farmer · Jul 29, 2018

B R C said:
Having taken down the last of my bins last winter(hurray) I am just working on finishing my simple but hopefull fairly efficient and easy to use set up. Just two sheds one has been up 15years and have just put partition wall down the middle, the other open fronted with lean too(yet to go up)to main shed providing two more bays. Mobile drier will sit towards front of open shed and empty over partition wall into lean too. Dry grain bucketed to where it’s going to be stored.
Trying to keep it very simple and just as important to build something that can be repurposed in the future.
In your case @Rabbit Wolverine i would build an extra open bay at the front of shed to house mobile drier which would then directly empty into the front of shed. Was due to concreted last Fri but early harvest caught me out, now being done this Fri. If you manage the build yourself it doesn’t cost as much as per tonne as the figures I hear quoted.View attachment 699144
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How did you get on with those "a" type concrete middle panels?

B R C · Jul 29, 2018

Only put them in a few days ago, they are heavy nearly 3t, only 9 on an artic load!
Very good so far, you have to be very careful installing them as bits chip off easily but take it slowly and it’s ok.
Oats on the right so nice and light, pushed up as much as possible without going over pedestals.
These and panels from Unbrako who have been excellent to deal with.

carbonfibre farmer · Jul 29, 2018

B R C said:
Only put them in a few days ago, they are heavy nearly 3t, only 9 on an artic load!
Very good so far, you have to be very careful installing them as bits chip off easily but take it slowly and it’s ok.
Oats on the right so nice and light, pushed up as much as possible without going over pedestals.
These and panels from Unbrako who have been excellent to deal with.

Excellent, thankyou.

l'ordinary bonville · Jul 29, 2018

Only trouble with dividing walls is they reduce the height you can store, so reduce the overall capacity.

Badshot · Jul 29, 2018

carbonfibre farmer said:
How high are you piling it up to get the 500-600t in?

10foot maybe 11 in places.

Wombat · Jul 29, 2018

There was a chap on here put some pics up the other day of a very smart store where I think they said they store for seed which was using entry through the bays.

DieselRob · Jul 29, 2018

l'ordinary bonville said:
Only trouble with dividing walls is they reduce the height you can store, so reduce the overall capacity.

How so? I have 2.5m unbrako Y panels like posted above but I stack grain up higher than them and push against as well and they never move an inch

RWG Contracts · Jul 29, 2018

Rabbit Wolverine said:
Sorry, i misunderstood your layout, i get it now.

Like that setup although I'd have my drier unloading at the entrance and push the grain to back wall, with having the dryer indoor cause condensation on the roof?

I don’t know about the condensation.

did a building for @DieselRob with drier on outside. If you made it 100 foot wide you could split the inside up to make separate bays

DieselRob · Jul 29, 2018

RWG Contracts said:
I don’t know about the condensation.

did a building for @DieselRob with drier on outside. If you made it 100 foot wide you could split the inside up to make separate bays

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Drier works really well on outside of the shed, my building is 60ft wide but as RWG says if you make it 100ft wide it would give you some good depth of bays and space to either put a trench conveyor to feed the drier or a bin like I have, so simple [emoji106]

l'ordinary bonville · Jul 29, 2018

DieselRob said:
How so? I have 2.5m unbrako Y panels like posted above but I stack grain up higher than them and push against as well and they never move an inch

If you just fill the shed to the gunnels, you have a large triangle of grain at 26 degrees full width above the grain wall height. If you were to separate crops using a wall you have 2 smaller triangles. On one of my stores 120’ by 60’ this amounts to 1067t in a big triangle vs. 533t in 2 half width triangles so I gain 533t.
Does that explain it?

Derky · Jul 30, 2018

I would have roller shutter doors in the side with vertical panels set in the concrete. Lots more setting up before its powerfloated but not difficult done a few like this.

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