You have great humourDutch fella, white horse, always about around the middle of July.
You have great humourDutch fella, white horse, always about around the middle of July.
Give everyone an equal share tonight and by 29th march it will have returned back to the same % it is today.Just an observation... not a policy decision..... however 1% of our population owns 70% of the land mostly descended from William the Conqueror and his Barons. So the "immigration" policy of 1066 is still in place
Thats the thing though aint it, socialists want to steal off others but they don`t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.Sure as sh!t wouldnt get my share back....
Not really, communists are just more honest about their intentions.think your confusing socialism with communism comrade...
My turn to apologise for a slow reply, very aged family were visiting over the weekend... *
Firstly, you haven't 'answered' my questions at all. You have side-stepped or - less charitably - ignored them because the honest answers don't suit your case.
Nonetheless, in anticipation of a rash of honesty breaking out around the beautiful Bay of Plenty, I'll respond to the points you have made. The EC is the principal body to which I was referring, if you hold illusions regarding its democratic accountability you need to re-examine Directives, Regulations and Direct Effect; and to take a very close look at the role played by the commission in 'persuading' - i.e. coercing - the governments of the smaller EU states to 'do the right thing' (right for the EC, of course, in its plan for a single super-state, rather than right for the people of said countries).
As in NZ, the UK parliament has virtually no say in governmental appointments and ECs are appointed by governments. Traditionally EC appointments have been made to ensure that a key player with a vested interest doesn't get to hold sway in that area, or to put the 'awkward squad' in difficult positions - a good analogy in internal UK affairs is that of putting an senior but inconvenient politician in the Home Office or in charge of Health.
I guess you are financially comfortable, since if you weren't you'd understand that key to the maintenance of an 'underclass' is having available a very cheap workforce to keep them there (at this point a true cynic might interject that a 'Labour' administration was the implementer...). NZ is, of course, the shining light and fount of all sociological wisdom from which we should learn much, and I note, after some research, that it very specifically does not allow mass / blanket immigration and does have a system which quantifies desirable and permitted immigration, except for really, really rich ̶p̶a̶s̶s̶p̶o̶r̶t̶ ̶b̶u̶y̶e̶r̶s̶ 'investors'.
Trying to impute that foreign aid should be stopped from my dislike of open-door immigration from the EU and my advocating of choosing the best immigrants from across the globe is both idiotic and a pretty poor and blatant attempt at a bit of virtue flagging. Don't do that.
If you think that NZ is trading with fewer countries and on more difficult terms that ought to be the case, we must assume that you are actively campaigning to join as a state of Australia, the US, Canada or maybe even Indonesia. If this isn't the case it is pretty clear that, if a relatively small economy such as NZ's is fit to do its own deals, the UK will be fine negotiating globally.
Well spotted that the Referendum result was close but, and this is important, in a democracy those who don't win a vote accept the result with good grace - as, to their credit, the vast majority of them have.
*'Oh... uncle Alcwyn would never have done that'... to which the honest reply would be 'Uncle Alcwyn wasn't aware of the Agricultural Revolution, let alone the bl**dy Industrial one' , but instead to which I smiled sweetly and nodded. … Glad I've got that off my chest.
I would say false, I employ up to 20 Islanders at different times of the year, our work is seasonal so do not employ that many full time, I would take on more if we could, some may be a threat or a burden but you could say that about any particular race.I know that it is said that there a no pure bred Maoris any more but many who have that appearance are Pacific Islanders who have arrived in increasing numbers over the last few years. Perhaps that is why the NZ government are tightening up. I know one health worker over there who said they were a threat and a burden. True or false?
Hung Parliaments generally get sorted fairly quickly, we have proportional representation which I was always opposed to until I lived with it, seems to work ok and takes out the huge swings in policy that can result from a FPP, FPP can also result in hung Parliaments, isn't that what you have now with DUP?It was aimed at both of you really. I have been out there several times as my wife has relations out there. I always envied the lifestyle but also understood that many of the older generation had been through hard times. On one visit they were going through a period of government shutdown because their hung parliament was totally disfunctional. Everything ran very smoothly for the best part of a year and people seemed quite happy!
Unfortunately the official leave campaign is not in government, so any chance of delivering an extra £350 million per week is not in their hands and the remonaners holding the keys would sooner give £39billion, yes I said billion not million, to the EU.
The BS was the skewed language and message in the leaflet, you would hope the government would give a balanced view of the pro and cons. We have a positive balance of trade in cash terms with the EU, yet by quoting percentage figures it made it look like the UK has a deficit.
Thankfully the majority are able to see through all this and did the right thing for the future of their country.
Thats the thing though aint it, socialists want to steal off others but they don`t like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
think your confusing socialism with communism comrade...
"If you tremble with indignation when you see injustice you are a comrade of mine, come join the revolution Brother"Not really, communists are just more honest about their intentions.
There are capitalists who are closet socialists, socialists who are closet communists and communists whose ideology is transparent and a failed one at that."If you tremble with indignation when you see injustice you are a comrade of mine, come join the revolution Brother"
They gave space for a moderate remainer to negotiate on a fair and equitable basis. This showed respect for the minority. Then we had Bliar batting for the EU, feeding them all sorts of ideas and information which resulted in Tusk, Barnier and co building a brick wall and showing their true colours. The remain inclined government were undermined by treachery thus proving that you have to fight fire with fire and the main reason that democratically minded remainers have failed in their task to come up with a solution.The official leave campaign ran for the hills once the referendum was over, which could account for them not being in government.
If your balance of trade is positive does that give lie to the oft quoted comment "They need us more than we need them" ?
Whether the majority did the right thing only time will tell.
Reads like your a Capitalist but closet socialist , or more like a fantasist.Funny that? As a socilaist i have never taken from the state, never inherited anything, paid an absolute shed load of tax, collect VAT each quarter for HMG
Yet i steal? What exactly
Apologies...
It was not too difficult to spot how close the referendum result was, it was so close that I would not consider it a rounding endorsement for Brexit, however the criteria was for a majority, irrespective of how small that majority was, a win is a win is a win, and as you have pointed out most of the Remainers accept that result, I would hope that the Brexitears also show the same decorum and are magnanimous in victory and accept that there is a process to go through when leaving.
Sorry I have done that wrong, hands up. Of course we have a balance of trade deficit with the EU, that is we import far more than we export, so yes they need us far more than they need us. Unless we need something that only the EU can produce, although I cannot think of anything that fits this category.The official leave campaign ran for the hills once the referendum was over, which could account for them not being in government.
If your balance of trade is positive does that give lie to the oft quoted comment "They need us more than we need them" ?
Whether the majority did the right thing only time will tell.
Unanswered q's:
1) If you had to choose today, would you want NZ to be subject to an unelected legislature that cost you a huge amount of money (£ half a trillion so far...) and, amongst many other negative aspects, guaranteed that your own population's most needy people were undercut in the job-market?
2) What is xenophobic / small-minded (Little-English?) about wanting to be able to trade more freely at our own behest with more countries, and to decide who from across the whole world is allowed entry to this country, rather than just have an exclusive automatic right of entry to Europeans?
You assume wrongly about wages in the UK, becauss of what has been, effectively, unlimited cheap labour, there has been no reason whatsoever for employers to pay over the miniimum wage – by pure coincidence, now that Europeans are not coming in such vast numbers, wages have begun to rise, even at the bottom. 'Essential tasks'... despite the highest employment ever, we still have people who are not working.
NZ's 'open' immigration pollicy applies to what is only the tiniest fraction of the number of people that EU membership imposes upon the UK, it isn't comparable. As for the oligarchs, I deplore their entry and remind you that I'm not the one preaching...
You were pretty explicit in linking my belief in limiting immigration with foreign aid, it's in writing. The UK doen't 'need' labour from anywhere while part of our own population is unnecessarily standing idle, although I will agree with you if you say that many want it.
The problem with being 'magnanimous' in victory, with regard to the referendum result, is that it was a simple binary question, it being made very plain by the Government and both sides in the campaign that leaving the EU would mena exiting the SM and CU too. If we, the majority, are 'magnanimous', i.e. accept what a small minority of remainers - who don't accept the result – want, it means that we will both be invalidating the democratic process and not getting what we voted for. Tale a moment to consider what they would be doing now to be 'magnanimous' to us, had they won the poll, they answer is blindingly obvious, nothing...
All countries can learn from others, a platitude if ever there was one. We, both the UK and NZ are superior to many other places, although far from perfect.
Totally disagree.
1.2 million people was the margin in the referendum.
In the ensuing General Election 80+% of the electorate voted for parties with Leave in their manifesto.
The Liberal Democrates, the only party advocating Remain, lost their vote share and Nick Clegg the LibDem leader and Remain advocate lost his seat.
You do not have an argument and are looking at the issue through rose tinted glasses .. I would say jaded Liberal glasses.
Don't be surprised if future UK politics changes significantly.
BTW Local party associations are in the process of throwing out MPs which refuse to advocate Leave.