Fendt 1050 / Quadtrac

Norfolk Olly

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
norfolk
Tried a 1050 a few weeks back, very impressive but it struggled for grip pulling our keeble, compared to the 875 challenger it was 100hp less, 4 k slower but using more fuel per ha. If I had an 8m drill or big bed tiller/ George moate it would be great but for a primary cultivation’s tractor it’s not a patch on a track machine IN THE DRY, after beet in December might be different. Imo a quadratic will take some beating, have you looked at the versatile??
 

D14

Member
Has anyone replaced a Quadtrac with a 1050? If so are you pleased with your decision, does it get the power down well enough?

BB

A local contractor had a STX 440 and tried a 1050 against that. 6m disc/tine cultivator, 5m subsoiler and 8m vaderstad drill at the time. The Fendt was working harder and not achieving the same output whilst using the same amount of fuel. They liked it but found the JD 8345RT performed the same as the Fendt so went with that as it was a lot cheaper and used less fuel per hour as it wasn’t working hard all the time. Basically it’s just wheels vs tracks argument.
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
Case quadtracks only came about as even the wheel arctics on duals were struggling to make use of all the horses so they went to tracks to get more ground contact .
If you want pure pulling power and grip a quady is the answer but if you want a more usable tractor that can be used on other duties rather than a prime mover then the Fendt might fit the bill .
 

Stephen E

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Northants
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We use our Cat all the time!
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
The Quadtracs also suited UK roads better than duals or even 900mm singles. There's little to touch them for grip and high draught applications. Useless for anything other than ground work. How did Bedfordia get on with their JD artics? I see there's a couple of 9 series wheeled artics for sale in FW this week. Around 2600 hours on both.

A local contract farmer has a 1050 but they do a lot of road haulage with it too. Is that what they are really for??? I don't think they looked at a crawler as an alternative. Flints destroy rubber around here - it is very unusual to see a Cat or Quad nearby.
 

Tomr10

Member
The Quadtracs also suited UK roads better than duals or even 900mm singles. There's little to touch them for grip and high draught applications. Useless for anything other than ground work. How did Bedfordia get on with their JD artics? I see there's a couple of 9 series wheeled artics for sale in FW this week. Around 2600 hours on both.

A local contract farmer has a 1050 but they do a lot of road haulage with it too. Is that what they are really for??? I don't think they looked at a crawler as an alternative. Flints destroy rubber around here - it is very unusual to see a Cat or Quad nearby.
No money in farming pah
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
The best thing about a crawler is you are nearly forced to park it up once the drilling is over. Can you really justify a Fendt 1050 pulling a grain trailer when a 10 year old 150hp all-rounder would do it just as well?
If you’ve got a need for a big Fendt like that anyway it may as well be used rather than spending even more money on other tractors to use whilst it’s parked up.
 

Shutesy

Moderator
Arable Farmer
The Quadtracs also suited UK roads better than duals or even 900mm singles. There's little to touch them for grip and high draught applications. Useless for anything other than ground work. How did Bedfordia get on with their JD artics? I see there's a couple of 9 series wheeled artics for sale in FW this week. Around 2600 hours on both.

A local contract farmer has a 1050 but they do a lot of road haulage with it too. Is that what they are really for??? I don't think they looked at a crawler as an alternative. Flints destroy rubber around here - it is very unusual to see a Cat or Quad nearby.
Those 2 artic deeres are for sale due a restructuring of a farming business. Dont think they had any complaints about them but they have been replaced by a quadtrac now.
 

Will7

Member
Has anyone replaced a Quadtrac with a 1050? If so are you pleased with your decision, does it get the power down well enough?

BB
This is a useful equation I was given which was developed by Silsoe and DLG:

650 x Engine PTO power (kW) = weight required on driving wheels (kg)
Speed of work (km/hour)

So in your 500hp example:

Engine Horsepower (hp) 500
PTO Power (kw) 336

Speed of Operation (km/hr) Required Weight (kg)

4 54551
5 43641
6 36368
7 31172
8 27276
9 24245
10 21821
11 19837
12 18184
13 16785
14 15586

Therefore I would suggest if the tractor is going to operate below 12kmhr stick with the quad, above 12kmhr then the fendt should be competitive provided you have the correct tyres etc. I changed from a crawler to wheels and miss it on heavy work and when it is rough but prefer the wheels the majority of the time.

My preference would be the quad, just put something really wide behind it
 

Andrew

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Location
Huntingdon, UK
This is a useful equation I was given which was developed by Silsoe and DLG:

650 x Engine PTO power (kW) = weight required on driving wheels (kg)
Speed of work (km/hour)

So in your 500hp example:

Engine Horsepower (hp) 500
PTO Power (kw) 336

Speed of Operation (km/hr) Required Weight (kg)

4 54551
5 43641
6 36368
7 31172
8 27276
9 24245
10 21821
11 19837
12 18184
13 16785
14 15586

Therefore I would suggest if the tractor is going to operate below 12kmhr stick with the quad, above 12kmhr then the fendt should be competitive provided you have the correct tyres etc. I changed from a crawler to wheels and miss it on heavy work and when it is rough but prefer the wheels the majority of the time.

My preference would be the quad, just put something really wide behind it

Never seen that equation before. I wonder if the 650 is tyre width in mm? That would need more weight the wider tyre size which seems sensible?
 

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