Tundra or bumble winter beans

spikeislander

Member

Location

bedfordshire

• Jun 15, 2019

• #1

Going to try winter beans this year , got a few tundra in on a farm we help on which look well.
So been recommended tundra but also bumble ?
Bumble said to be later but nicer sample ?
Not sure a bit later would be a bad thing as lots of wheat .
Views and tips on both would be appreciated.
We are in sunny bedfordshire
Tia

 

Green oak

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Arable Farmer

Location

Essex

• Jun 15, 2019

• #2

Tundra all day long. Smaller seed. Good colour. Sample no different too springs. Yield well and can go for human consumption too.

 

spikeislander

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Location

bedfordshire

• Jun 15, 2019

• #3

Smaller seed ? As in better for the drill?

 

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DRC

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• Jun 15, 2019

• #4

What are the herbicide options with beans these days. Can they still be grown without too many problems.

 

Green oak

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Arable Farmer

Location

Essex

• Jun 15, 2019

• #5

spikeislander said:

Smaller seed ? As in better for the drill?

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Definitely. Specific weight around 80

 

principal skinner

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Arable Farmer

Location

Bedfordshire

• Jun 15, 2019

• #6

Drill them thick enough, kerb and defy. Control your spend in the spring.

 

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Michael3112

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• Jun 15, 2019

• #7

We put in tundra this year best looking crop of winter beans we have had in few years

 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer

Location

Fen Edge

• Jun 16, 2019

• #8

principal skinner said:

Drill them thick enough, kerb and defy. Control your spend in the spring.

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Defy better partner than pdm and clomazone?

 

Steevo

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Location

Gloucestershire

• Jun 16, 2019

• #9

I've grown Wizard and Tundra for the last few years and can hardly tell the difference between them. Both seem to yield similar. I think Tundra is possibly a bit taller than Wizard.

I do wonder whether there is much between bean varieties to make it worth changing too frequently.

 

cotswoldcs

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Location

Bang In the heart of the Cotswolds

• Jun 16, 2019

• #10

Steevo said:

I've grown Wizard and Tundra for the last few years and can hardly tell the difference between them. Both seem to yield similar. I think Tundra is possibly a bit taller than Wizard.

I do wonder whether there is much between bean varieties to make it worth changing too frequently.

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+1
We are happy with Tundra but you don't want to be buying new seed every year otherwise it makes it expensive and yield is mostly down to the weather.

 

Tompkins

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Location

NE Somerset

• Jun 17, 2019

• #11

Tundra look full of promise here, drilled plenty thick enough and about shoulder height now (I'm 6ft). Had PDM/clomazone pre em and Crawler in Feb, not hard to find blackgrass now though.
Anybody else think the lower rate this year could be to blame?

 

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juke

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Location

DURHAM

• Jun 17, 2019

• #12

How many tundra seeds are people drilling to the sq meter

 

Simon Chiles

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Location

Surrey/ Kent Border, UK

• Jun 18, 2019

• #13

juke said:

How many tundra seeds are people drilling to the sq meter

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25

 

Clive

Staff Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Lichfield

• Jun 18, 2019

• #14

who ever buys bean seed ? how do you afford it ?

beans look good here - spend to date = 220kgs/ha of Farm saved seed, 4L/ha of fuel drilling, 3 L glyphosate (bit bot on them all !) and x1 cheap CTL fungicide done yesterday ...................... next operation will be harvest

 

spikeislander

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Location

bedfordshire

• Jun 18, 2019

• #15

First year in we have to buy seed ?
Unless anyone knows different ?

 

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DRC

Member

• Jun 18, 2019

• #16

Clive said:

who ever buys bean seed ? how do you afford it ?

beans look good here - spend to date = 220kgs/ha of Farm saved seed, 4L/ha of fuel drilling, 3 L glyphosate (bit bot on them all !) and x1 cheap CTL fungicide done yesterday ...................... next operation will be harvest

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Will you sell is a few ton for cattle feed. Won’t sow any, honest !

 

Clive

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Arable Farmer

Location

Lichfield

• Jun 18, 2019

• #17

silverfox said:

Will you sell is a few ton for cattle feed. Won’t sow any, honest !

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hopeful all will sell as human consumption - but if you want some to feed then I will sell you them

 

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DRC

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• Jun 18, 2019

• #18

Clive said:

hopeful all will sell as human consumption - but if you want some to feed then I will sell you them

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Ha ha. Only joking. Just pointing out that if your starting from scratch , you have to get seed from somewhere .
Probably have the seed police on the phone again now!

 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer

Location

Fen Edge

• Jun 18, 2019

• #19

Tompkins said:

Tundra look full of promise here, drilled plenty thick enough and about shoulder height now (I'm 6ft). Had PDM/clomazone pre em and Crawler in Feb, not hard to find blackgrass now though.
Anybody else think the lower rate this year could be to blame?

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Lower rate of what?

 

Tompkins

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Location

NE Somerset

• Jun 18, 2019

• #20

Flat 10 said:

Lower rate of what?

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Crawler