holywell farmer
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Is free off the virus there pm has announced
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kiwi pom
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I don't think that's what she said. We still have a few cases but that seem to be in known clusters, there's no evidence of community transmission at the moment.
I don't think there has been any cases of essential workers (other than perhaps medical staff) spreading it about either.
All good signs but not free of the virus.
Oh and I believe McDonalds drive throughs are open this morning.
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I don't think there has been any cases of essential workers (other than perhaps medical staff) spreading it about either.
All good signs but not free of the virus.
Oh and I believe McDonalds drive throughs are open this morning.
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Thick Farmer
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- West Wales
How do NZ mov on from here?
If anyone enters the country, everyone could die. If anyone leaves the country, they could die.
I can’t see this being a long term solution.
If anyone enters the country, everyone could die. If anyone leaves the country, they could die.
I can’t see this being a long term solution.
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
As far as I can tell (don't watch the news much) the plan is to keep the border shut for a long time. Any Kiwis coming back in are quarantined for 2 weeks.
There's some talk that if the Aussie's sort themselves out too, borders might open between the two countries.
We're at level 3 lockdown (dramatic isn't it) at the moment, so things are still pretty strict. Schools are technically open tomorrow for those that have to send their children. I think they're only expecting 5% though.
As you suggest we may have just delayed things by a few months.
They could keep the borders closed for years as far as I'm concerned but the tourism industry wont like that.
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- South Wales UK
They can start eporting lamb here now then can they ???
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- Montgomeryshire
They’ve been running their sheep industry along those lines for decades, so why not extend the same regime to movement of people?
They’ve successfully managed to keep out Enzootic abortion and scrapie by such measures, so surely a flu bug would be easy? @NZDan and @Global ovine might not like having their travels curtailed though.
kiwi pom
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The borders were/are only closed to people. Freight volumes are down but still operating. Under level 4 only essential businesses could open, dairy processors and freezing works kept going.
Opening things up more means that non essential freight can be delivered and unloaded so the containers can be moved to and be loaded by the exporters.
farmerm
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- Shropshire
NZ will have to build some very attractive quarantine resorts where on arrival tourists can stay for 2 weeks for free prior to continuing their trip....
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Yes I'm sure as time goes on switched on business owners will adapt and come up with new ways to do things.
We're seeing it with retail outlets at the moment, they cant open their doors to the public but click and collect or delivery is allowed, people are adapting.
Thinking about it Queenstown isn't exactly easy to get to but does have an international airport. Should be fairly easy to seal it off and make it a quarantine resort.
Global ovine
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NZ sheep farming has had the benefit of UK pregnancy scanners appearing at the right time each year just as UK sheep farming has had the benefit of NZ shearers turning up. These disruptions could cause problems for both host countries.
Currently Queenstown airport is closed, several very new high rise hotels are mothballed indefinitely. Several thousand jobs have evaporated out of the tourist sector with many internationals on working visas stuck there. Ski season is still months away. Food production industries aren't such a bad thing to be into nowadays.
Currently Queenstown airport is closed, several very new high rise hotels are mothballed indefinitely. Several thousand jobs have evaporated out of the tourist sector with many internationals on working visas stuck there. Ski season is still months away. Food production industries aren't such a bad thing to be into nowadays.
NZDan
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- Broomfield, New Zealand
Aye it will have an impact, I've been working closely with MPI at the moment to try and get UK scanners into NZ, up to 20 come to NZ each year, two I know of a stranded in OZ having done a season there and now can't go to UK or NZ, interesting times ahead. The rumors I'm heading from acquaintances in the UK travel industry is they travel into the UK will be effectively back up and freely running in October. But who really knows.
RushesToo
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- Fingringhoe
Track test trace - and never mind flatten the curve, squash it.
If you have no cases managing the few you get is amazingly manageable. That is why the lost weeks when all the western countries sat about doing nothing cost so so many lives - and so much money.
Taiwan, Singapore and NZ all did track, test, trace and squash.
If you have no cases managing the few you get is amazingly manageable. That is why the lost weeks when all the western countries sat about doing nothing cost so so many lives - and so much money.
Taiwan, Singapore and NZ all did track, test, trace and squash.
NZDan
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- Broomfield, New Zealand
NZ still does not have good tracking, part of the reason we're still on lock down levels more restrictive than Aus, the UK and the US, even though we have single digit cases. The South Island has had no cases for 5 days yet they refuse to lift restrictions on the SI. Suicide rates are reported to be higher (20%) than that of the same stage last year. Hospital staff at least are not busy with almost all none urgent treatment and operations cancelled. I fear that if restrictions continue with no real reasoning behind it people will rebel. The vigilantes are still out in-force particularly in the NI.
RushesToo
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- Fingringhoe
@NZDan These are the figures for London alone - It is about twice the population of New Zealand:
Over 4,000 dead. You've done well.
NZDan
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- Broomfield, New Zealand
Aye we've been lucky. I wonder how much population density has to do with it. Almost all of out cases are linked with clusters and nearly third of "cases" tested negative but were classified to be COVID19 because there were respiratory symptoms
The test appears to produce lots of false negatives, I'm sorry but thinking we can get rid of the virus is deluded, until we have a vaccine we have no chance of controlling it, its harsh and awful for the families of those who die but is there any other choice than to do what every country has done ie buy time to build up treatment capacity and then let it run its course, we are already seeing suicide and murder rates increasing.
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- South Wales UK
If over 2wk holidays possibly?
NZDan
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- Broomfield, New Zealand
Ate you sure about the test producing false negatives? We've been a assured by out PM and our DoH that the test is 100% accurate?
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Is it the same test though?
You're right though, never heard anything about false results.
There was a report from Bristol uni that said in China at least they thought it was only 70 % accurate, possibly from poor testing technique, it is meant to be quite hard to pick up enough viral matter from the throat in mild cases and lots dont like the swab pushed up into their sinuses.
When the antibody testvis widely available then we will get a better idea, there are claims now that it is over 90 % accurate and now shows both types of antibody so can be used to pick up current cases as long as it has been present for 14 day iirc