holywell farmer
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Is free off the virus there pm has announced
How do NZ mov on from here?
If anyone enters the country, everyone could die. If anyone leaves the country, they could die.
I can’t see this being a long term solution.
How do NZ mov on from here?
If anyone enters the country, everyone could die. If anyone leaves the country, they could die.
I can’t see this being a long term solution.
They can start eporting lamb here now then can they ???
NZ will have to build some very attractive quarantine resorts where on arrival tourists can stay for 2 weeks for free prior to continuing their trip....
Aye it will have an impact, I've been working closely with MPI at the moment to try and get UK scanners into NZ, up to 20 come to NZ each year, two I know of a stranded in OZ having done a season there and now can't go to UK or NZ, interesting times ahead. The rumors I'm heading from acquaintances in the UK travel industry is they travel into the UK will be effectively back up and freely running in October. But who really knows.They’ve been running their sheep industry along those lines for decades, so why not extend the same regime to movement of people?
They’ve successfully managed to keep out Enzootic abortion and scrapie by such measures, so surely a flu bug would be easy? @NZDan and @Global ovine might not like having their travels curtailed though.
NZ still does not have good tracking, part of the reason we're still on lock down levels more restrictive than Aus, the UK and the US, even though we have single digit cases. The South Island has had no cases for 5 days yet they refuse to lift restrictions on the SI. Suicide rates are reported to be higher (20%) than that of the same stage last year. Hospital staff at least are not busy with almost all none urgent treatment and operations cancelled. I fear that if restrictions continue with no real reasoning behind it people will rebel. The vigilantes are still out in-force particularly in the NI.Track test trace - and never mind flatten the curve, squash it.
If you have no cases managing the few you get is amazingly manageable. That is why the lost weeks when all the western countries sat about doing nothing cost so so many lives - and so much money.
Taiwan, Singapore and NZ all did track, test, trace and squash.
@NZDan These are the figures for London alone - It is about twice the population of New Zealand:NZ still does not have good tracking, part of the reason we're still on lock down levels more restrictive than Aus, the UK and the US, even though we have single digit cases. The South Island has had no cases for 5 days yet they refuse to lift restrictions on the SI. Suicide rates are reported to be higher (20%) than that of the same stage last year. Hospital staff at least are not busy with almost all none urgent treatment and operations cancelled. I fear that if restrictions continue with no real reasoning behind it people will rebel. The vigilantes are still out in-force particularly in the NI.
Aye we've been lucky. I wonder how much population density has to do with it. Almost all of out cases are linked with clusters and nearly third of "cases" tested negative but were classified to be COVID19 because there were respiratory symptoms@NZDan These are the figures for London alone - It is about twice the population of New Zealand:
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Over 4,000 dead. You've done well.
The test appears to produce lots of false negatives, I'm sorry but thinking we can get rid of the virus is deluded, until we have a vaccine we have no chance of controlling it, its harsh and awful for the families of those who die but is there any other choice than to do what every country has done ie buy time to build up treatment capacity and then let it run its course, we are already seeing suicide and murder rates increasing.Track test trace - and never mind flatten the curve, squash it.
If you have no cases managing the few you get is amazingly manageable. That is why the lost weeks when all the western countries sat about doing nothing cost so so many lives - and so much money.
Taiwan, Singapore and NZ all did track, test, trace and squash.
If over 2wk holidays possibly?NZ will have to build some very attractive quarantine resorts where on arrival tourists can stay for 2 weeks for free prior to continuing their trip....
Ate you sure about the test producing false negatives? We've been a assured by out PM and our DoH that the test is 100% accurate?The test appears to produce lots of false negatives, I'm sorry but thinking we can get rid of the virus is deluded, until we have a vaccine we have no chance of controlling it, its harsh and awful for the families of those who die but is there any other choice than to do what every country has done ie buy time to build up treatment capacity and then let it run its course, we are already seeing suicide and murder rates increasing.
Ate you sure about the test producing false negatives? We've been a assured by out PM and our DoH that the test is 100% accurate?
There was a report from Bristol uni that said in China at least they thought it was only 70 % accurate, possibly from poor testing technique, it is meant to be quite hard to pick up enough viral matter from the throat in mild cases and lots dont like the swab pushed up into their sinuses.Ate you sure about the test producing false negatives? We've been a assured by out PM and our DoH that the test is 100% accurate?