Accounting software

TGM

Member
Location
Co Down UK
We are considering new accounting software this year and I wondered if anyone had tried sum-IT/farmplan or would recommend any other software. Ideally would like the usual invoicing, VAT and tax but would also be useful to track the contracting and sheep businesses, we currently use quickbooks but not to its full potential
We supply the Kingswood accounts software for farmers and contractors in northern Ireland. You'll find the main office details for Kingswood of you do a Google search. We use the accounts for our own farming business and I'd recommend it.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
@Clive or anyone else, have Farmflo got any better with the deficiencies (nvz etc) mentioned at the beginning of this thread?

no - development seems to have stoped with Farmflo and I'm told they are focusing very much on Ireland and selling what they currently have developed

However I think I have finally found something very credible as GK replacement, it is 100% cloud based (subscription for £0-£30 per month feature activation dependant), unlimited user numbers within a business, has a very good app for mobile, is very users friendly and integrates with Xero and other could account systems. I've been using it alongside GK to try find the issues and so far I love it and am finding it does a lot more than GK especially re financials, budgeting and price / yield scenario stress testing etc.

It's not available in the UK yet and will needs some development to make it work with UK crops, varieties, inputs and fertiliser regs etc. We are looking into viability of bringing it to the UK via TFF, so far so good and if all goes to plan might be looking for beta testers in the spring if you are interested ?


don't ask me for links / names etc as Im under a NDA at the moment
 
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Boysground

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
That looks interesting @Clive. For me to move I would need an offline app as I don’t always have a signal. Also needs to be fully nvz compliant.

Currently fed up with being told nvz module is on the way by muddy boots. It’s been a very long wait.

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JJT

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Cumbria
no - development seems to have stoped with Farmflo and I'm told they are focusing very much on Ireland and selling what they currently have developed

However I think I have finally found something very credible as GK replacement, it is 100% cloud based (subscription for £0-£30 per month feature activation dependant), unlimited user numbers within a business, has a very good app for mobile, is very users friendly and integrates with Xero and other could account systems. I've been using it alongside GK to try find the issues and so far I love it and am finding it does a lot more than GK especially re financials, budgeting and price / yield scenario stress testing etc.

It's not available in the UK yet and will needs some development to make it work with UK crops, varieties, inputs and fertiliser regs etc. We are looking into viability of bringing it to the UK via TFF, so far so good and if all goes to plan might be looking for beta testers in the spring if you are interested ?


don't ask me for links / names etc as Im under a NDA at the moment

Very interested in this @Clive , am not a large grower so gatekeeper was way over priced for me. Been using spreadsheets plus planet for recs. Been looking for a program with planet incorporated within it.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
That looks interesting @Clive. For me to move I would need an offline app as I don’t always have a signal. Also needs to be fully nvz compliant.

Currently fed up with being told nvz module is on the way by muddy boots. It’s been a very long wait.

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runs perfectly offline and just syncs when your next connected
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Very interested in this @Clive , am not a large grower so gatekeeper was way over priced for me. Been using spreadsheets plus planet for recs. Been looking for a program with planet incorporated within it.


I think the future is very much like Xero where you pay a subscription, this offers options from free (basic use that would be fine for cross compliance) to £30 (ish still TBC) where you get full reporting, cross check data bases, mapping, mobile recording / scouting apps and multi users etc plus more - with a few half way use options in between. You don't buy software these days you just rent the use of it !
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
trouble is realistically if all goes to plan its a few months before this would be UK availble


currently no import for existing GK etc and I think that could be a big deal for some ?? its easy to set up and get going with though, the kind of software that you can intuitively just use without instruction or expensive training etc
 

Dairyfarmerswife

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
Anyone know much about this?

https://www.figured.com/

A little. Been trialling since April. It links to Xero so it takes the accounting figures and categorises them. Good for forecasting and budgeting, though there still seem to be a few glitches in the system - for example at present I have to enter milk forecasts in what it describes as the 2018 year, in order for them to show in the current year, 2019 (because we have a 2019 year end).

It should also manage stock numbers for the accountant. You put in your opening figures and then as you have births, deaths and sales you enter them on here. Sales are posted to Xero. In theory at the end of the year it should have correct figures for your herd for each category.

There is a cropping tracker but as we don't have any crops I haven't looked at it. It will also track beef cattle, sheep and wool, or there is a customisable one.
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
Gatekeeper does farm stock control

Use a Xero adon for another business that has stock so it's all quite possible
How much is gatekeeper? Currently using green light grower management, but they put the price up this year (mainly because I wanted the chemical pro check part)
 

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
Just looking at this same question due to the concern about the upcoming quarterly reporting, which I am told might be delayed, but will probably come in sooner or later.

Spoke to Farmplan about Gatekeeper and their accounting package. With @Boysground's comments in mind, I too thought it looked rather old school and a little bit clunky.

I did try Xero for a while, but didn't find it so good that I couldn't help but use it. Will probably look at it again as a first option. @Clive, is there farming features that it lacks? Farmplan guy said, as you would expect a competitor to say, that Farmplan's accounting software could take into account things like levies on grain sales that would confuse a more mainstream software package. Not sure to what extent that is totally rubbish.
We have set up a livestock levy sub code and an arable levy. When we sell a load of wheat, we put wheat in the one column and link it to crop sales, then put levy underneath and link it to arable levy (if anything I’ve made that sound more complicated than it is!).
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Anyone know much about this?

https://www.figured.com/

yes - have had a few discussions with them and there are plans to make it more "UK" and sell it here in the future - the crop recording system I mention also works with Figured and the combination of Xero, Figured and the crop recording / mapping system i'm looking at would be a very neat and capable easy to use solution for an arable farm
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
How much is gatekeeper? Currently using green light grower management, but they put the price up this year (mainly because I wanted the chemical pro check part)

no idea as we bought it a decade ago (hasn't changed much in that time ) price also depends on number of users and what modules options you have - it wasn't cheap a decade ago ( server thousands for our fully optioned version) and doubt its got any cheaper ! we pay over 1k pa in support and update fees alone
 

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