Mr Tree
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If you sold today ( which you won’t I don’t think!) so you could budget for next year to sell for August it’s circa £197!!!
Game over
Game over
If you sold today ( which you won’t I don’t think!) so you could budget for next year to sell for August it’s circa £197!!!
Game over
Panic tactics from the buyers , lock the door and let them whistleThey’ll be lots of cancelled fert orders!
going on the reports of the margins of the uk fert producer !! reckon it would be in our interests to cancel the orders and buy russian !!They’ll be lots of cancelled fert orders!
No it’s not and mine is fortunately in a barn.Never a good time to sell is it .
Wouldn't bother me buying Russian , we probably are anyway .going on the reports of the margins of the uk fert producer !! reckon it would be in our interests to cancel the orders and buy russian !!
I’m not going to have a conversation with a grain trader for 7 months.
Surely you could deliver a respectable gross margin with today's input costs if you forward sold barley at 197 per t?If you sold today ( which you won’t I don’t think!) so you could budget for next year to sell for August it’s circa £197!!!
Game over
Is giving them the silent treatment the best option from your experience?
If I was just farming which luckily I’m not then no I couldn’t.Surely you could deliver a respectable gross margin with today's input costs if you forward sold barley at 197 per t?
Does s/he want to buy some off you?PS
I bought fertilser at £635 for this years wheat plantings and Agrii rep told me yesterday that if we bought today it’s now mid to late £800’s !
Disastrous, put the chopper down and chop it up, can't sell it for thatIf you sold today ( which you won’t I don’t think!) so you could budget for next year to sell for August it’s circa £197!!!
Game over
Still bemused as to how the fertiliser trade get by with the potential of a wave of last minute cancelled farm orders....They’ll be lots of cancelled fert orders!
If I was into livestock and needed barley I’d be buying my requirement up right now. £40 higher than last September prices. There’s going to be demand for barley because seems to me everyone has grown wheat this year.This is good news for the livestock boys.
Every year the trade hoovers up all the winter barley at harvest and at the lowest price of the year, puts it on a boat and gets rid of it.
They then spend the rest of the year importing rain forest products to sell to UK ag.
The phrase "cutting out the middle man" has never been more appropriate
Fair point. I wasn't allowing for rent and last time I looked at the numbers I used a fert number closer to 600.If I was just farming which luckily I’m not then no I couldn’t.
If I was to take a reasonable living ,had a mortgage on my home an FBT agreement on my holding and a family the return would be derisory.
Unless of course I’d been fortunate enough to have had the family farm bought and paid for a generation or so ago!
If again you are unlucky enough to have an FBT rent and you need to purchase machinery using asset financing etc then barley at £197 on ordinary land yielding very average there’s no room for any investment and certainly little net profit.
As I say luckily or maybe fortunately I’ve got several different income streams I’ve built over a 25 year period of farm so the farm is just to tick over but I really do think at these levels and the return on investment then FBT farmer is on borrowed time!
PS
I bought fertilser at £635 for this years wheat plantings and Agrii rep told me yesterday that if we bought today it’s now mid to late £800’s !