Best fence posts?

[exmoor dave]

Will two clipex posts do the same spacing as three wood posts

This is basically what we've done, but we're also putting a hot wire on rather than barb, so the cattle should stay off the fence rather than trying to rub on the barb.

I can't see the extra spacing being a problem for sheep as we're using the X-net and it really is much more ridged.

I do think you need to be abit careful putting too much pushing pressure on a clipex fence- the standard posts do flex a fair bit!

 

[CollCrofter]

Two strainers, 2015... Completely unacceptable. There's more from the same batch looking just the same as the one still standing and another one collapsed due to having a gate hung on it

 

[Hilly]

You all need to stop buying wood fencing it’s all sh!t , concrete / metal is the future.

 

[Willie adie]

I wouldnt bother complaining to supplier they say if you chap them in that can forfeit the warranty. As it damages top.
If you cut notch for stay another forfeit.
Ground conditions, how long and where you stored them
On other words anything to not honour the warranty

 

[Optimus]

We just use BT poles for strainers now.they last far longer.way cheaper too.

 

[CollCrofter]

I wouldnt bother complaining to supplier they say if you chap them in that can forfeit the warranty. As it damages top.
If you cut notch for stay another forfeit.
Ground conditions, how long and where you stored them
On other words anything to not honour the warranty

I only got my chapper last year, those ones were all hand dug

 

[Willie adie]

I only got my chapper last year, those ones were all hand dug

Ah but what was the weather when you did it?
Was it an approved spade?
Did you back fill at the correct ratio of stones to earth?

 

[Wombat]

Ah but what was the weather when you did it?
Was it an approved spade?
Did you back fill at the correct ratio of stones to earth?

Sounds like a malting barley contract [emoji4]

 

[nb844]

What stamp/mark was in the top of those posts?

 

[Bury the Trash]

What stamp/mark was in the top of those posts?

Possibly this one .


Job for trading standards ir.


People buy them in good faith and expect them to last long enough, mind you what is that? Even 15 yrs ain't no where near long enough either, what with the waste ofwire, time and fossil fuels

 

[tepapa]

Tanalith as a preservative proved it didn't work within 3-4 yrs after the removal of arsenic. Why people are using them 10years later and still expecting/hoping/praying that they will last a bit longer is beyond me.
Farmers have had their fingers burnt with crap posts and then still buy them presumably because their cheap, so the cycle continues.
There are other options, creosote, steel and now plastic posts are all available but are considerably dearer. You pay your money and take your choice.

 

[JohnGalway]

Tanalith as a preservative proved it didn't work within 3-4 yrs after the removal of arsenic. Why people are using them 10years later and still expecting/hoping/praying that they will last a bit longer is beyond me.
Farmers have had their fingers burnt with crap posts and then still buy them presumably because their cheap, so the cycle continues.
There are other options, creosote, steel and now plastic posts are all available but are considerably dearer. You pay your money and take your choice.

Low margins, it's difficult to gather the money for posts that might cost 4x 5x 6x the cheap posts. Yes, the right posts are only dear the day they're bought, unfortunately that's the day you have to pay for them too. Many on the same low margins would be against taking on a small loan also, due to a lot of income being unpredictable or out of their control.

 

[egbert]

I used to bang clipex in by hand with a narrow drivel. We've got a post banger now and that works too but we bent a couple of posts working out how to tell when we hit a rock.

got a pretty good line i narrow drivel m'self

 

[egbert]

Low margins, it's difficult to gather the money for posts that might cost 4x 5x 6x the cheap posts. Yes, the right posts are only dear the day they're bought, unfortunately that's the day you have to pay for them too. Many on the same low margins would be against taking on a small loan also, due to a lot of income being unpredictable or out of their control.

I can't believe anyone is using tanalised now for fencing, or anything that goes in the ground...really baffles me.
Nor that we're all still discussing it.

Pressure treated creosote stakes (or cleft chestnut) might be double the tanalised cost, but the wire and the labour are the same.
I seldom look at the annual fencing bill -for fear of upsetting myself-, but it can only be 20-30% more for using the right gear, surely?
It's a no brainer.

I also feed in sawn chestnut when the mill has time -generally too dear, but it makes me feel good about myself-, and select out skinny oak/chestnut logs in the round for a lot of strainers/gateposts, once the sapwood has sloughed off.
(I realise not everyone carries hundreds of tonnes of oaken round timber, or have a crane sat in the yard.)

Those near to me, it's often worth asking me for a price on said oak posts - if I've got 'crane time', and am in the right stack, I can soon generate some.
Some of our own are now over 25 years old, and we've had have few failures - those are usually identifiable as having had some brown rot from a torn branch etc, which I would weed out straight off now.

 

[tepapa]

I can't believe anyone is using tanalised now for fencing, or anything that goes in the ground...really baffles me.
Nor that we're all still discussing it.

Pressure treated creosote stakes (or cleft chestnut) might be double the tanalised cost, but the wire and the labour are the same.
I seldom look at the annual fencing bill -for fear of upsetting myself-, but it can only be 20-30% more for using the right gear, surely?
It's a no brainer.

I quotes I do, creosote posts generally add about about 15-20% to the cost of the whole job. Creosote strainers making the biggest addition to cost, especially with lots of turns.

I do admit the price of materials and fencing is getting out of hand in relation to income of stock farming.

 

[Tealo]

Chestnut are the boys, we got fed up with rotten posts. Grandad bought some 30 years ago secondhand and there still good.

 

[JohnGalway]

I seldom look at the annual fencing bill -for fear of upsetting myself-, but it can only be 20-30% more for using the right gear, surely?
It's a no brainer.

Oak last year here were around €12 per post I think, heartwood, that's if it could be got. Priced Clipex rock posts today, €10 plus vat. Regular 10 slot ones are something around €9 not sure if that's inc vat or not.
Priced 5'6 concrete posts last year €6.15 inc vat, but there's the weight handling etc with them.
Green water injected shite is in the low €2's.

 

[Smith31]

No

What spacing would you recommend for clipex posts on a mixed livestock farm? Thanks

 

[Andrew B]

Someone did mention chestnut posts before on another thread last year. I forget the supplier though.

Must be a fortune to be made if you had a supply of the right posts and some nasty chemicals to dip them in.

We will, later in the year, be bringing into the UK a new hardwood post, which will last a lifetime.

The timber is coming from a 70,000 acre underwater forest in a lake which was created for a hydroelectric scheme.

We have been harvesting this timber and knowing the poor quality of what is on offer have decided that fencing will be one of our markets for the smaller sizes.

We will price it very keenly

The timber is perfectly preserved and this tropical hardwood was used, in the past, as railway sleepers and in the marine environment ( ports, sea defences etc)

It is classified as "recovered" timber so no deforestation whatsoever and with the added benefit it is clearing a lake which cannot be properly navigated due to all the obstructions.

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ave attached a photo showing the main equipment used. If anyone is interested in knowing more am happy to connect. Please PM me

 

[egbert]

Oak last year here were around €12 per post I think, heartwood, that's if it could be got. Priced Clipex rock posts today, €10 plus vat. Regular 10 slot ones are something around €9 not sure if that's inc vat or not.
Priced 5'6 concrete posts last year €6.15 inc vat, but there's the weight handling etc with them.
Green water injected shite is in the low €2's.

hmm, if that's for stakes, .... my price for structural building grade 3x3x5'6" would be about that (£10.56 plus vat)
Fencing grade would be a lot less - i budget my own at a fiver, although I wouldn't want to be doing hundreds at that.
More room for manoeuvre in strainers etc, from round timber.
Left in the heap for a coupla years till the sap is off, and there's not a lot of prepping to do.

'Green water injected shite'? sounds about right.