Brewdog’s Scottish Forest

[onthehoof]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://parkswatchscotland.co.uk/2023/10/09/brewdogs-lost-forest-at-kinrara-senseless-destructive-and-a-misuse-of-public-money/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjkn5PkzsKFAxX-ZEEAHTC6DlcQFnoECAwQAg&usg=AOvVaw0ku0qbYJMIa4A03imxhYch

 

[onthehoof]

Lost Forest: why is BrewDog’s green scheme causing controversy?

Firm has pledged to plant huge forest in Scotland, but some of its environmental claims have raised eyebrows

www.google.co.uk

 

[Rich_ard]

They might be better spending some time on making better beer!

 

[onthehoof]

 

[Swarfmonkey]

£690,986

Jesus H f**king Christ.

Taxpayers being taken for mugs so a company can greenwash itself at their expense.

 

[beltbreaker]

Those numbers are pretty common on estates up here lots of native woodland planting going on. Those that are on the ball have made a lot of money over the last 15 years. If you have shooters sorting deer out and people beating up (replanting) and you maintain the trees then you could double your money quickly and more if you sell land as established within the woodland. Add to that the latest goldmine of peatland regeneration and a hill estate can generate serious wonga so long as you keep the mustard trousered magical is out and rein in the contractor. If not theres only 2 out of 3 winners....

I would think this particular company maybe using the estate as a tax liability as well as assorted people taking the Michael and getting their value from said company. But that's just a rumour

 

[Dave79]

I think I also read somewhere that the greenwashing side of the business is set up as a separate limited company, so I imagine if they are required to repay a significant amount they will just go bang, and start again. I guess that’s proper regeneration!

 

[TheRanger]

I think I also read somewhere that the greenwashing side of the business is set up as a separate limited company, so I imagine if they are required to repay a significant amount they will just go bang, and start again. I guess that’s proper regeneration!

You'd think any grant would be tied to the owner of the land, rather than a limited company. But then this is the Scottish Government we are talking about.

 

[Rich_ard]

You'd think any grant would be tied to the owner of the land, rather than a limited company. But then this is the Scottish Government we are talking about.

Who owns the land. One of the owners of brew dog owns the pubs then rents them back to the brewery. Not sure it's all dodgy but the reports and programs about it don't paint a great picture of brew dog. The owner seams to have done well financially though. A made in Chelsea girlfriend too, not sure if that's a measure of success!

 

[TheRanger]

Who owns the land. One of the owners of brew dog owns the pubs then rents them back to the brewery. Not sure it's all dodgy but the reports and programs about it don't paint a great picture of brew dog. The owner seams to have done well financially though. A made in Chelsea girlfriend too, not sure if that's a measure of success!

No idea, but these grants should be tied to the land owner, to stop the above happening. Any change in ownership, the new owner would have legal obligations to continue with any agreements. not sure if that's how it works, but it should be.

There was a farm for sale recently in Ayrshire, the whole farm was for sale except the slurry tower as it had been grant funded recently and they would have to pay back the full grant if selling before X number of years.

 

[DrDunc]

Cows killing the planet?

Sheep destroying biodiversity?

Farming tenants denying land owners their full earning potential?



Brewdog has very succinctly demonstrated the real problem

 

[Rich_ard]

No idea, but these grants should be tied to the land owner, to stop the above happening. Any change in ownership, the new owner would have legal obligations to continue with any agreements. not sure if that's how it works, but it should be.

There was a farm for sale recently in Ayrshire, the whole farm was for sale except the slurry tower as it had been grant funded recently and they would have to pay back the full grant if selling before X number of years.

Brew dog bought the estate, not sure if thats brew dog the company, the crowd funded bits or the owners/ founders themselfs. There was a sound that they were saying every pint you buy plants a tree then they were claiming the grants too! Clever chancers at the heart of it!

 

[beltbreaker]

You'd think any grant would be tied to the owner of the land, rather than a limited company. But then this is the Scottish Government we are talking about.

The estate with the largest native woodland scheme up here was sold to a builder. He wanted to move the woodland on for some reason but would have had to pay back the grants £2m from memory as it could only be moved on once.

Or at least that's the story I heard

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

They might be better spending some time on making better beer!

I still wouldn't buy it on principle.

The appalling treatment of their rural tenants and employees is well documented.

 

[puppet]

Terrible company.
When we bought the farm we got paid the final planting grant after 15 years but had to replant 3000 trees to get it, about 200 per acre. Lot of rabbit damage then.

 

[br jones]

a tree for every beer they say ,thats 3 million a year ,yep