Cerone/Ipanema on spring barley

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
From memory those products are 480g/. What rate to use?

Angry looking spring barley. Currently plenty of soil moisture. Chance of rain again end of next week.

Have used 0.15 l/ha previously, and it's fair knocked the crop.

Thinking 0.1 l/ha, but had anyone gone lower rate than this? Experiences?
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
From memory those products are 480g/. What rate to use?

Angry looking spring barley. Currently plenty of soil moisture. Chance of rain again end of next week.

Have used 0.15 l/ha previously, and it's fair knocked the crop.

Thinking 0.1 l/ha, but had anyone gone lower rate than this? Experiences?
I'll be going 0.5l/ha.

Already had 1l/ha 3C 750
 

Grass And Grain

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
I'll be going 0.5l/ha.

Already had 1l/ha 3C 750
Thanks for info.

We're on sand, and TBF on previous occasions we've put the cerone on and then had no more rain, so crop had a bit of a double whammy. Sprayed 150ml just in the better patches, and the heads were shorter and flag leaf smaller, so I'm cautious.

120kg/N/ha plus some FYM.

Will he interesting to hear if anyone has used 100ml or less, and results?
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Thanks for info.

We're on sand, and TBF on previous occasions we've put the cerone on and then had no more rain, so crop had a bit of a double whammy. Sprayed 150ml just in the better patches, and the heads were shorter and flag leaf smaller, so I'm cautious.

120kg/N/ha plus some FYM.

Will he interesting to hear if anyone has used 100ml or less, and results?
Was round spring barley with agronomist today. So more up to date information.

Going 0.15 on some and 0.3 on bits that look more lush.

Similar situation to you on sand, and had muck, cows out wintered on fields.

Difficult to judge available organic N.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
Was round spring barley with agronomist today. So more up to date information.

Going 0.15 on some and 0.3 on bits that look more lush.

Similar situation to you on sand, and had muck, cows out wintered on fields.

Difficult to judge available organic N.
Have you got waterlogging?
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Plenty yellow waterlogged barley round here
You Can see the drains.
Straw going to be short.
Ours could be short yet too. A couple of weeks of hot weather will kill it. Been ideal growing conditions for our light land so far.

If we get through June with enough moisture should be straw.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Was round spring barley with agronomist today. So more up to date information.

Going 0.15 on some and 0.3 on bits that look more lush.

Similar situation to you on sand, and had muck, cows out wintered on fields.

Difficult to judge available organic N.

Ours could be short yet too. A couple of weeks of hot weather will kill it. Been ideal growing conditions for our light land so far.

If we get through June with enough moisture should be straw.
Thanks.

We have same problem/risk as you. The sand can every quickly go to a drought situation. Normally it would be the low hollows of blacker more moisture retentive soils where we'd be considering growth reg. This year it's the dry hill tops of poor yellow sand where we've got the lush growth (or at least the bits in-between where the better land is rising up out of the wet spots).

Used 100ml in the end, so we'll see if it has had any effect. Agronomist recommended 150, then after I pulled a face he knocked it back to 125. Will know in a couple of weeks if 100ml has had any effect.
 

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