ollie989898
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Which part of the documentary do you have issue with?
Channel 4 now - The Truth about Traveller Crime
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Which part of the documentary do you have issue with?
puntabrava
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- Location
- Wiltshire
Is that Larry Goodmans bio?
whats gets me is this, the law of this country should apply to everyone regardless of race or priviledge? for far to long the law whever that is the police or council takes a different view ? in a bizzare way the population thats law abiding and tries to do the right thing, ie plays by the rules set by council, country is discriminated ? ive said this before whats the point the other side is winning winning ? the police go after the easy targets ? this is not just the traveller community? but the drug gangs etc etc, trouble is now is almost gone or has gone to far if their was a big crack down rioting and rioting like th e riots in london would happen?
There are many, many gypsy families living locally. There is one small compound a short distance away and we try to keep on good terms. We cut the hedge for them and I once pulled out a caravan with the tractor. However, we always load up small bales of hay and never leave them out in the field overnight! One was spotted killing a pheasant with a sling shot just a week or two again, quite clever I thought!
Their children went to the village school, up to the age of 9 anyway so they could read and write but didn't bother after that. The older sisters always collected them and took them straight back to the mother's car. They have ponies on various fields but will always move them if asked, and in the floods put them in our field, but took them out again when their field had dried out without being asked.
Many of the families live quiet lives, doing "garden clearance" or roofing but there tends to be trouble when "cousins" visit as they go with their dogs all over the place and leave gates open, cue cattle out on the main road or into neighbours' fields. There is also an increase in theft as well. We just assume that they are out and about at night just picking up what they can find.
They always go round in a little gang, you will virtually never see a gypsy by themselves. Some families have got into drugs, which was something that gypsies never used to touch.
However not far away there is a group who have been in the national papers as terrorising the local population, most of the houses in the hamlet are for sale as I think they have been made an offer, give us £100,000 and we will move away. They are most unpleasant and no-one would want to live near them.
Another bugbear is planning. They get planning for one caravan and then 6 months later two or three appear. Now that is fine if they are all quiet, but not if they are the nasty or thieving kind.
Their children went to the village school, up to the age of 9 anyway so they could read and write but didn't bother after that. The older sisters always collected them and took them straight back to the mother's car. They have ponies on various fields but will always move them if asked, and in the floods put them in our field, but took them out again when their field had dried out without being asked.
Many of the families live quiet lives, doing "garden clearance" or roofing but there tends to be trouble when "cousins" visit as they go with their dogs all over the place and leave gates open, cue cattle out on the main road or into neighbours' fields. There is also an increase in theft as well. We just assume that they are out and about at night just picking up what they can find.
They always go round in a little gang, you will virtually never see a gypsy by themselves. Some families have got into drugs, which was something that gypsies never used to touch.
However not far away there is a group who have been in the national papers as terrorising the local population, most of the houses in the hamlet are for sale as I think they have been made an offer, give us £100,000 and we will move away. They are most unpleasant and no-one would want to live near them.
Another bugbear is planning. They get planning for one caravan and then 6 months later two or three appear. Now that is fine if they are all quiet, but not if they are the nasty or thieving kind.
Red Fred
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- Location
- Hants/Dorset border
Dad used to find it funny that when the Romanies were moved onto our nearby council estate in the '40s and '50s, the inhabitants were up in arms and protested that they didn't want gypsies because it ruined the good name of their estate. It turned out the old gypsy families were more trustworthy and harder working than most of the inhabitants.
Christoph1945
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- Location
- Widnes West Cheshire
I haven't seen the programme but will try to catch it this evening.
Prejudice, discrimination, and bigotry don't always have simple origins. I once worked with a man who hated Methodists and I have known Catholics who hated Protestants, Protestants who hated Catholics, and whites who despised all none whites. I, to my shame, hated and despised America and all Americans for many years.
What then, of Gypsies? I have sat and drunk tea with an elderly Gypsy lady in her beautiful caravan interior. I have attended a Christian Gypsy tent meeting and listened to their preachers deliver the gospel to their fellow travellers.
But, whilst in Warsaw, I once had my pockets picked by a pregnant Romany beggar who had asked if I could spare a coin or two for a poor pregnant Gypsy woman. There are thieves, robbers, rapists, and murderers etc., hiding within all social groups and nationalities; perhaps we may find them much closer to home than we could imagine.
Just at the moment, I think that we all need to worry more about the coronavirus and our political elete!
Prejudice, discrimination, and bigotry don't always have simple origins. I once worked with a man who hated Methodists and I have known Catholics who hated Protestants, Protestants who hated Catholics, and whites who despised all none whites. I, to my shame, hated and despised America and all Americans for many years.
What then, of Gypsies? I have sat and drunk tea with an elderly Gypsy lady in her beautiful caravan interior. I have attended a Christian Gypsy tent meeting and listened to their preachers deliver the gospel to their fellow travellers.
But, whilst in Warsaw, I once had my pockets picked by a pregnant Romany beggar who had asked if I could spare a coin or two for a poor pregnant Gypsy woman. There are thieves, robbers, rapists, and murderers etc., hiding within all social groups and nationalities; perhaps we may find them much closer to home than we could imagine.
Just at the moment, I think that we all need to worry more about the coronavirus and our political elete!
icanshootwell
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- Location
- Ross-on-wye
Look on the bright-side, you probably won,t after this year.Neither do folk with better accountants than me
Bad reputation ? It was a traditional local travellers site until the Irish moved in, not only did they force out the traditional residents, who the had to find new sites in surrouinding villages, but they also started grabbing neigbours land. Amongst other crimes thye were responsible for stealing the jade figurines from the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge, none of which have ever been seen again.
They have cost the area a fortune over the past 20 or so years.
romany and Irish travellers are two totally different peoples , there would be thousands of farms in the country to whisk Romanies would have played a massive part of the work force , dad and myself stay in contact with many of these families to this day and many of them have done incredibly well for themselves through very hard work.
dont confuse the two different people under one banner.
dont confuse the two different people under one banner.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Apparently hundreds moved in tn Wickham Southampton ,way tonight, distance relations mentioned ?
Wickham Horse Fair Cancelled
www.travellerstimes.org.uk
- Location
- South Wales UK
Think still gone???Wickham Horse Fair Cancelled
Local accounts say that the fair is cancelled but due to the level of local opposition to what is apparently an event given by Royal charter, it is thought necessary to attend to maintain the status quo. Southampton council have said that they will not stop next years fair.
- Location
- South Wales UK
Christoph1945
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- Location
- Widnes West Cheshire
Our friend's husband contracted it and initially thought that it was just early onset influenza but after growing delirious and falling out of bed in a sweat they called for an ambulance and after being carted off to hospital, not even knowing his own name, he was confirmed as having Coronavirus. Fortunately, after prompt treatment, he was returned home looking somewhat better than before he took ill but now it is a matter of waiting to see if Long-Covid will be a problem.
Some of our local posties are Covid infected and one extended family that we know have the virus in three different households.
icanshootwell
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- Ross-on-wye
I bet he's pleased he paid his taxes all those years now the NHS is looking after him.