Chem label - what does this mean?

[Zippy768]

As above. What exactly are they meaning? Hope y'all can read it ok. ?

 

[B'o'B]

As above. What exactly are they meaning? Hope y'all can read it ok. ?

The cure might be worse than the problem!

 

[Zippy768]

The cure might be worse than the problem!

That's what I thought it meant. Not something I have noticed on other labels.

 

[solo]

You are applying a graminicide to a similar species so it will suffer from the applied chemical but not as much as the weed.

 

[Zippy768]

You are applying a graminicide to a similar species so it will suffer from the applied chemical but not as much as the weed.

Makes sense when you say it like that.
Is this particular chem one to be more wary off?

 

[teslacoils]

If Samuel L Jackson did labels this would be Some Hot Shiiiiiit.

 

[Try to succeed]

Makes sense when you say it like that.
Is this particular chem one to be more wary off?

Hamlet knocks back even a good crop of wheat. I don’t think I’ll be using any this year.

 

[solo]

Makes sense when you say it like that.
Is this particular chem one to be more wary off?

Spring applied graminicides on wheat are quite harsh on the crop.

 

[Gong Farmer]

Pacifica Plus carries the same warning. Crop effects have been so severe that you need a damn big problem to justify applying it. Then the pluses might outweigh the minuses.

 

[Flat 10]

Would it be true @Fromebridge that crop effects tend to be less the earlier its applied? Anecdotally I would say so.
Also is it warm enough yet, I assume so? i must read my monolith cans to see what that says.

 

[Gong Farmer]

True, crop is more sensitive if growing so later in spring more risky than earlier. Should be warm enough now but again that means crop is 'softer'.
You pays yer money....

 

[Brisel]

Herbicide uptake by the weed is less when there is less growth. Broadway Star needs warmer conditions than Atlantis/Monolith/Horus/Hatra/Hamlet to work well.

Think of this as free PGR.

 

[Zippy768]

So at a 1l/h, will that knock the crop hard at this time of year? AMG is the issue.
What other options do I have? The issue is mild-ish at worst in one piece. Other fields I was debating just doing headlands.

Wanted to roll the fields as well but 2 week interval either side

 

[deleted user 837354]

Is hamlet not just atlantis with some DFF? If the crop doesn't look happy then don't use it and leave out T0 PGR if you are going with Atlantis.

If a crop looks pished off then wait for it to grow away before using herbicides.

 

[solo]

So at a 1l/h, will that knock the crop hard at this time of year? AMG is the issue.
What other options do I have? The issue is mild-ish at worst in one piece. Other fields I was debating just doing headlands.

Wanted to roll the fields as well but 2 week interval either side

If its wheat Othello will do AMG. Be aware that frosts are forecast this weekend depending on your location, so the crop will be fragile.

 

[Brisel]

So at a 1l/h, will that knock the crop hard at this time of year? AMG is the issue.
What other options do I have? The issue is mild-ish at worst in one piece. Other fields I was debating just doing headlands.

Wanted to roll the fields as well but 2 week interval either side

How big is the AMG? Othello won't do anything in stem extension. I'd live with low levels of AMG, test soil pH, macronutrients and fix structure problems as it's a symptom of a thin crop for whatever reason. I used to have it on the ploughing ins & outs where burial wasn't quite so good. I spray all stubbles off now.

 

[deleted user 837354]

If you have AMG what is wrong with 3/4 rate Atlantis and drop the Othello out if you think the crop is in for a knock? Put manganese with it to take the sting out of it for the crop?

Take some pictures of the AMG so we can see how bad it is?

 

[Zippy768]

How big is the AMG? Othello won't do anything in stem extension. I'd live with low levels of AMG, test soil pH, macronutrients and fix structure problems as it's a symptom of a thin crop for whatever reason. I used to have it on the ploughing ins & outs where burial wasn't quite so good. I spray all stubbles off now.

AMG not big expect the odd patches that missed the plough furrow. Alot just a couple of leaves.
Crop looks good, ph good and HIGH levels of p and k at last test.
Creeping in from margins and plough in/outs is why I was favouring headlands, it's just where do you stop?

Now got two weeks to think about it as the roller is now whoooing up and down. Wont spray it til next week anyway and have beans hopefully going in the anyway

 

[Zippy768]

If you have AMG what is wrong with 3/4 rate Atlantis and drop the Othello out if you think the crop is in for a knock? Put manganese with it to take the sting out of it for the crop?

Take some pictures of the AMG so we can see how bad it is?

Worst bits

 

[Brisel]

I'd say that was beyond Othello now & you need something stronger, though check with your agronomist. Here's part of the Othello label;