Church of England £1bn slavery reparations

[Bald Rick]

£100m not enough so x10 to £1bn

Do they have this sum to hand? Poor old vicars up & down the country are going to go short I reckon

Church of England's £100m 'not enough' to address slavery links

A report says the Church should apologise for its historic involvement in the slave trade.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[robs1]

I take it the Roman Catholic church will be dishing out some compo for the Romans slaves then

 

[Muck Spreader]

Absolutely ridiculous. If they are feeling guilt why don't they just give themselves a real good dose of Self-flagellation?

 

[Danllan]

FFS, nothing is owing - but if the descendants of slaves - which we all almost certainly are - from the African Atlantic slave trade want 'reparations' for something none of them have suffered, or have even met someone who suffered... their first call should be to the descendants of the those who actually enslaved their ancestors.

And, of course, that means black Africans of the West-African 'upper classes', and those with a lineage back to the military / enforcers of that aristocracy, all of whom will without any doubt set them to rights about the whole subject.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

their first call should be to the descendants of the those who actually enslaved their ancestors.

Zero chance of them admitting that the slave trade was already well established in Africa before whitey turned up for a bit of sail-by shopping, let alone blaming Africans for trading in slaves.

 

[Mek]

I take it the Roman Catholic church will be dishing out some compo for the Romans slaves then

Ah! That’s the beauty of being a Roman Catholic. Go to confession ,pay a penance of five Hail Marys,job done. No need for all this compensation malarkey.

 

[Paddington]

Descendants of the Britons enslaved by the Romans should apply for compo, I mean what have the Romans ever done for us ?

 

[Lowland1]

Zero chance of them admitting that the slave trade was already well established in Africa before whitey turned up for a bit of sail-by shopping, let alone blaming Africans for trading in slaves.

It was something that had gone on since time immemorial however the opening up of the colonies of both British and other European countries provided a very stable and solid market which pushed it to new levels. Still I don’t think anybody who benefited from it is still alive so let’s move on. Personally I don’t care. I suppose being white it’s hard to know what injustices my 17th and 18th century ancestors received at the hands of the aristocracy, church etc but if you is black you have always got the injustices of slavery to fall back on as a reasons for your life failures. Well at least if you are in the UK if you are in the States it’s a different story.

 

[Danllan]

Ah! That’s the beauty of being a Roman Catholic. Go to confession ,pay a penance of five Hail Marys,job done. No need for all this compensation malarkey.

You couldn't make it up... hang on, they did...

 

[Danllan]

It was something that had gone on since time immemorial however the opening up of the colonies of both British and other European countries provided a very stable and solid market which pushed it to new levels. Still I don’t think anybody who benefited from it is still alive so let’s move on. Personally I don’t care. I suppose being white it’s hard to know what injustices my 17th and 18th century ancestors received at the hands of the aristocracy, church etc but if you is black you have always got the injustices of slavery to fall back on as a reasons for your life failures. Well at least if you are in the UK if you are in the States it’s a different story.

How do you mean, in your last bit?

 

[JimAndy]

i wonder if we could counter sue all the "Free" Africans living in the UK. after all Britain nearly bankrupted it self in setting up a navy blockade that stop the transatlantic trade

 

[Lowland1]

How do you mean, in your last bit?

Look at the level of racism that was legal in the Southern states of America up until say the 1960’s . I’ve worked in Virginia, Georgia and Tennessee. In Tennessee the county I lived in was proud to be 100% white. Anyone who believes the UK has a racist culture should pay a visit to Cumberland county. That said it’s a lovely place with nice people.

 

[Danllan]

Look at the level of racism that was legal in the Southern states of America up until say the 1960’s . I’ve worked in Virginia, Georgia and Tennessee. In Tennessee the county I lived in was proud to be 100% white. Anyone who believes the UK has a racist culture should pay a visit to Cumberland county. That said it’s a lovely place with nice people.

Interesting, hand on heart I can tell you that despite being as British as possible and having a 'public-school' accent, I have never been more hospitably treated than by Afrikaners in the arse end of the Transvaal when my car broke down near their farm.

These were people who, even then, viscerally hated the British and who were - I am 100% certain - supporters of the AWB but, all that aside, they were the most considerate and hospitable people you could hope to meet in such a situation.

Be interesting to know if that county you were in had always been 100% white; it may have been an abolitionist enclave in the deep-South, without a slave to be seen...

 

[Lowland1]

i wonder if we could counter sue all the "Free" Africans living in the UK. after all Britain nearly bankrupted it self in setting up a navy blockade that stop the transatlantic trade

Not really as the money was spent on compensation to the Slave owners for the loss of property rather than to the slaves.

 

[SteveHants]

Did the British Government (ie the taxpayer) not compensate the plantation owners when slavery was abolished, a bill which the taxpayer only stopped contributing to quite recently (2015)?

 

[Lowland1]

Interesting, hand on heart I can tell you that despite being as British as possible and having a 'public-school' accent, I have never been more hospitably treated than by Afrikaners in the arse end of the Transvaal when my car broke down near their farm.

These were people who, even then, viscerally hated the British and who were - I am 100% certain - supporters of the AWB but, all that aside, they were the most considerate and hospitable people you could hope to meet in such a situation.

Be interesting to know if that county you were in had always been 100% white; it may have been an abolitionist enclave in the deep-South, without a slave to be seen...

Don’t doubt the South African story. We’ve been several times to farming events and the people have been very pleasant even those who can’t or won’t speak English. Black South Africans on the other hand are very unfriendly. I’m of the opinion the most extreme people leave if they can which has left a mix of unqualified people who can’t get out and some very clever people who would get on anywhere in the world. As for Crossville Tn I think it’s somewhere that never had many black people ( slaves or non ) and doesn’t want the trouble that went with integration. As of 2020 they have some black and Hispanic people.

 

[soapsud]

C of E is typically hypocritical and contradictory because it's so bad at publicity, or other worldly, if you like.

It's links to the poor often meant its bishops were always keen on associating with prostitution (just as Christ apparently liked to hang around ladies of the night too), whether it was granting licences or getting to know them on more intimate terms even up to Victorian times.

The Church is also no good at checking references of employees either:

In December 2022, Martin Sargeant, formerly a glorified book keeper of the London Diocese, was sentenced to five years in prison for defrauding them of £5.2m.

 

[Lowland1]

C of E is typically hypocritical and contradictory because it's so bad at publicity, or other worldly, if you like.

It's links to the poor often meant its bishops were always keen on associating with prostitution (just as Christ apparently liked to hang around ladies of the night too), whether it was granting licences or getting to know them on more intimate terms even up to Victorian times.

The Church is also no good at checking references of employees either:

In December 2022, Martin Sargeant, formerly a glorified book keeper of the London Diocese, was sentenced to five years in prison for defrauding them of £5.2m.

Again the Church of England and also the Catholic Church were used as tools of oppression against the working people. The abolition of slavery wasn’t driven by main stream religion but by sects such as the Quakers. William Wilberforce was an evangelist.

 

[ollie989898]

When I first heard this headline I was pleased, thinking it was about time all those choir boys had a shilling or two for their efforts.

 

[soapsud]

When I first heard this headline I was pleased, thinking it was about time all those choir boys had a shilling or two for their efforts.

Their efforts or their pains?