Clay soil, compacted, weeds...help please!

JennBags

New Member
Location
West Sussex
Hello all, I bought just under 5 acres of grazing land last year and moved my 2 horses onto it for the winter thinking everything would be easy and I'd have loads of grass. First time land owner and it's been an eye opener that's for sure! I need some advice on what I can do to improve my land and grazing please. Excuse the novel below but I'm trying to provide as much info as possible.

My land is wet, it's on a slope but has fields higher than it and all the rain slides down and ends up in my field, I wonder if this is partly due to soil compaction.

I had the horses on the whole field for the winter, and yes, they trashed the whole field. I had been hoping that the grass would recover quickly, I had the field harrowed, rolled and fertilized just before we were forecast some rain, but this never appeared. A couple of weeks later, we were promised some more rain, so I harrowed the field again and spread some seed. Again, the rain didn't appear.

I took the horses off it for a couple of weeks, and divided it into 3. One tiny paddock which I'll save for winter, just under 1/2 acre, another 1 acre strip, then a larger paddock of 2.25 acres. (I also have another 0.7acres which is made up of a pond, some trees and a little grazing which is where they went when the rest of the field was being looked after).

The horses went back onto the 1 acre strip and I also put out a couple of round hay bales for them, but within a month they had decimated it. I opened up the strip I was saving for winter as we've got a few months, but that wasn't even a week ago and that's now bare too.

The main field has some grass, but also has bare patches and the grass isn't thick except at the bottom where it was very wet. It has large patches of weeds (nettles mostly). I wanted this paddock to sustain the 2 horses being out 24 hrs over the summer but I am now thinking it's not going to be enough. My neighbours fields are wonderful, lovely green grass on a thick sward, and I'm feeling rather despondent as it's been my dream for years to have my own land that I can manage well and I seem to just be messing it up.

After reading posts on here, my next idea is to get someone with a sward lifter. Does this help, and how long would I need to have the horses off the land afterwards? Anyone know where I can find someone with this equipment here in Sussex?
Or does anyone have any other bright ideas (except get rid of the horses or get sheep!)?

Thanks for reading!
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
rid of the horses now that is the bright idea (y)
failing that change it for another field, ideally one that is a bit lighter soil type and less prone to poaching during the winter...

and failing that.... soil test, and correct deficiencies, if it has been horse ground before it will probably need lime, lime and some more lime... then spray off, plough, reseed and spray to control docks thistles and nettles in your new ley.. then address a whole new range of veterinary issues because your new grass is too rich!

Best of luck
 

JennBags

New Member
Location
West Sussex
Thanks, I knew getting rid of the horses would be the top idea . It's taken me 20 years to find a parcel of land already, I doubt I'll find an alternative, this is West Sussex, within the South downs national park and land is precious.

If I had it ploughed etc, how long would it take before I could get the horses back on it?
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Thanks, I knew getting rid of the horses would be the top idea . It's taken me 20 years to find a parcel of land already, I doubt I'll find an alternative, this is West Sussex, within the South downs national park and land is precious.

If I had it ploughed etc, how long would it take before I could get the horses back on it?

You have to bite the bullet and stable them after september , nothing kills fields better than hosses
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
find someone who is trusted by fellow horse owners to tell you what you need doing, firstly as has been said some lime and or calcified seaweed to bring the PH up to 6.5 and to sweeten the land, then kill the weeds and in mid august spread some grass seed on it. it could need compaction removing but you need to dig some holes to check or just aerating with a spiked roller. The only long term answer is to keep the horses off when its wet, as you have found this time wet ground with horses on is very expensive to correct and far more than buying extra hay, a couple of sand based areas for them to have a roll is far cheaper they only need to be about three times the size of a decent stable so they can have a roll and get wet and cold so want toget back in their stable
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
You will be wasting your time if you dont get the horses off in winter and very wet weather . Sward lifter will improve things a lot , but you will need to accept that if you want to run them over it In winter then you have an exercise paddock and nothing else
 

JennBags

New Member
Location
West Sussex
Thanks everyone. Yes I'm definitely going to keep them off most of it in winter, I'm giving them the trash paddock and that's it. I've got stables (well a gated field shelter) and they'll be coming in much earlier than last year.

I just need to know how I can get the grass strong now and if I'm better off finding somewhere else to put them for a few months while I get it sorted, or if I can work around them still grazing it.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I'll get some tomorrow and upload them. Thank you. Appreciate all the help and advice, especially to a horse owner, I know how farmers feel about us lol.
I've made a business from supplying horse owners . My father left school and worked on a farm as head horseman ploughing all day long when they were busy. Look what horses did in the pits and the 1st world war , no other animal has served man better
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Thinking about it, you mention that the fields suffer from run-off from above. If this is significant, it may be worth checking what the drainage is doing there - perhaps putting in a ditch at the boundary and stopping it causing any more issues. Probably worth living with it for a while, perhaps getting advice from someone who has experience of such matters. Two horses destroying the whole of a five acre plot in a reasonably dry winter seems a bit much to me.

I'm also a bit sketchy of dates, and wonder when you reseeded/ rolled. Again, I'm in a different climate up here, but perhaps you were a bit early for the season? I would only now be thinking of sowing grass seed, but my maths tells me you did that almost two months ago?
 

JennBags

New Member
Location
West Sussex
@Highland Mule I have been planning on ditching the top border but if I'm not having the horses in it in the winter now, am wondering is it worth spending the money (8k and that's mates rates from family, I was quoted 20k by someone else).
I harrowed and rolled late March and harrowed and reseeded mid-April. Was that all too early? It did get cold again but the fact that we've had almost zero rain is probably the biggest factor. However my neighbours fields look amazing while mine are horrible. Photos tomorrow!
 

Old Spot

Member
Location
Glos
Split the field to allow the grass to recover, rotationally graze.
Keep horses off when wet.
Horses cause compaction sward lift or use a spike aerator, spring and autumn (quite cheap to buy). Ensure you reseed with plenty of nutrition
It is also vital to start to encourage a dense sward with plenty of organic matter. Spread compost, fertiliser,spike,reseed. I personally favour direct drilling.
It is very possible will take time but is very rewarding, best of luck
 

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