Covering slurry stores

[stablegirl]

I believe we will be required to cover slurry stores in the next 5 to 10 years.

It's not yet known about midden? Grant's? Reception pits?

But my main question, is it a sealed cover to keep gas in? Or a roof to keep water out?

We have a large concrete store with a ramp in for getting sand out. A roof isn't that big a deal, a cover would be very awkward.

 

[More to life]

Isn’t it best to deal with it when it’s written in black and white.

 

[pappuller]

I believe we will be required to cover slurry stores in the next 5 to 10 years.

It's not yet known about midden? Grant's? Reception pits?

But my main question, is it a sealed cover to keep gas in? Or a roof to keep water out?

We have a large concrete store with a ramp in for getting sand out. A roof isn't that big a deal, a cover would be very awkward.

Let's not get too excited, there are grants available I believe, mid tier, catchment sensitive farming are 2 I've heard tell of.

 

[HasthorpeGrange]

Can you not use a sheet like on a swimming pool? One that rolls back at one end but sits on a bit of a round bar down the centre so water runs off

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

The devil will be in the detail and will depend on the requirements of the legislation. In the simplest form slurry can be covered with veg oil, 1L will cover 1000M2.

 

[frederick]

I really think this one is going to shock all of us. Brexit has unfortunately meant nothing has progressed for 2 years and now were going to suddenly get rapid progress and nobody knows how to answer the questions

 

[dinderleat]

A straw crust will comply. Don’t over make it over complicated. It’s emission they want to stop its not to reduce rain water collection.

 

[Adam@Rumen]

I was thinking the other day here that a roof that could be opened and closed would be quite handy

 

[vantage]

A roof to keep rain water out will pay for itself in a high rainfall area.
I’ve seen pictures of plastic balls floating on a pit , these are supposed to dramatically reduce emissions.

 

[Homesy]

My umbilical contractor said avoid floating covers with slurry at all costs. Very difficult to stir without removing cover despite what the the salesmen say. if you separate first then they are not so bad but even then without settling tanks before going into the lagoon you still need to stir occasionally. He has seen the clay hollow balls and said they seem to work much better.

 

[Beef farmer]

It also might turn out to be herds of less than 250 cows dont need to worry, but greater than 250 cows you need a permit. That will be the easiest decision to cull 50 cows from each farm!

 

[More to life]

It also might turn out to be herds of less than 250 cows dont need to worry, but greater than 250 cows you need a permit. That will be the easiest decision to cull 50 cows from each farm!

Good for everyone in the long term I recon

 

[vantage]

My umbilical contractor said avoid floating covers with slurry at all costs. Very difficult to stir without removing cover despite what the the salesmen say. if you separate first then they are not so bad but even then without settling tanks before going into the lagoon you still need to stir occasionally. He has seen the clay hollow balls and said they seem to work much better.

I’ve seen hoops incorporated under the cover to back a stirrer into the slurry. I asked a while ago if anybody had seen the same, so far nothing.

 

[vantage]

It also might turn out to be herds of less than 250 cows dont need to worry, but greater than 250 cows you need a permit. That will be the easiest decision to cull 50 cows from each farm!

Or turn your larger herds into multiple smaller ones?!

 

[davidroberts30]

I’ve seen hoops incorporated under the cover to back a stirrer into the slurry. I asked a while ago if anybody had seen the same, so far nothing.

Use a polytunnel

 

[Werzle]

Lets hope rules for roofs and covers to stop rainwater do come in, seems madness to not too. I hope rules come in that stop chicken muck being tumped in fields and left to leach into watercourses, they should have muck stores and haul it out 24-48hrs pre spreading imo. Far too much pollution being caused by dairy slurry, digester liquid and chicken litter because the capability to store it isnt there

 

[frederick]

It also might turn out to be herds of less than 250 cows dont need to worry, but greater than 250 cows you need a permit. That will be the easiest decision to cull 50 cows from each farm!

As it stands all dairy has to be permitted and intensive beef. So if you ha e 30 cows you may have to pay £10-20k for a permit.

 

[betweenthelines]

Yeah, put a fecking great sheet of plastic over the slurry pit to make things more sustainable! What next? Every farm to have a diesel powered pooper scooper to collect all the cowpats before they release methane?

Does a cow's dung produce more methane (which btw, decays in the atmosphere anyway) because the animal is housed for a few months, rather than left outside all year round?

Policy makers really do need to start coming up with proper, thought through solutions, not just headline grabbing gimmicks.

 

[frederick]

A straw crust will comply. Don’t over make it over complicated. It’s emission they want to stop its not to reduce rain water collection.

A straw crust may work in theory. Wether it will be allowed is another thing. How do you stop it blowing to one side if you float it on separated slurry

 

[Blue.]

My umbilical contractor said avoid floating covers with slurry at all costs. Very difficult to stir without removing cover despite what the the salesmen say. if you separate first then they are not so bad but even then without settling tanks before going into the lagoon you still need to stir occasionally. He has seen the clay hollow balls and said they seem to work much better.

I had a cover and had to take it off because we simply couldn’t get it stirred.

Catchment sensitive farm officer was telling me last year how you wouldn’t need to stir,I had to remind him my experience was very different.

I’ve seen hoops incorporated under the cover to back a stirrer into the slurry. I asked a while ago if anybody had seen the same, so far nothing.

Where did you see the hoops?

I’ve seen stirrers with built in hoops.