D1000/800

[Jsmith2211]

Hi all,

Looking into the possability of perhaps getting a big baler. I'm after something that wont pack the bales too tight, as the modern balers seem to struggle to make a light enough bale to allow the hay to breathe in the middle without it falling apart. Im also on a quite tight budget, so looking into the D1000 or 800s. I accept they will be slower than a modern 80x90, but should be quicker than the old 572 round baler. Most of what i'll be baling will be sold to horse people (and nice dry crops hay/straw), so putting a little less in a bale isnt a problem, nor is putting them on lorries. Whats the things to look for on one? I know the deering knotter fairly well now i'd like to think, so I dont mind adjusting a few knotter issues. its more the rest of it really. Are they pathetically slow and are they really just a bit too old to be using these days? And what would be about that would be a little bit newer and slightly more money? Anything newer i've found has been a good 10 grand more!

 

[davidroberts30]

Are you rounds now??
How will you/they handle them other end?
A few of my customers said about square bales,I said as long as you help me roll them in...

 

[powerontheland]

D1000 is a 90x60 chamber, so effectively an 80x70 bale. Getting rather long in the tooth now and spares are potentially an issue i would have said. (I run a 2008 BB920 and some spares for that are getting scarce!)

 

[d williams]

Hi all,

Looking into the possability of perhaps getting a big baler. I'm after something that wont pack the bales too tight, as the modern balers seem to struggle to make a light enough bale to allow the hay to breathe in the middle without it falling apart. Im also on a quite tight budget, so looking into the D1000 or 800s. I accept they will be slower than a modern 80x90, but should be quicker than the old 572 round baler. Most of what i'll be baling will be sold to horse people (and nice dry crops hay/straw), so putting a little less in a bale isnt a problem, nor is putting them on lorries. Whats the things to look for on one? I know the deering knotter fairly well now i'd like to think, so I dont mind adjusting a few knotter issues. its more the rest of it really. Are they pathetically slow and are they really just a bit too old to be using these days? And what would be about that would be a little bit newer and slightly more money? Anything newer i've found has been a good 10 grand more!

For your market place I wouldn’t be going 80x90 I’d be going smaller

 

[Stw88]

For your market place I wouldn’t be going 80x90 I’d be going smaller

We picked up an old but excellent condition class 1100 (80x50) in the summer. Was an experiment to get away from little bales. So far they’ve been great. You can pick up easily 3-4 slices under your arm.

 

[d williams]

We picked up an old but excellent condition class 1100 (80x50) in the summer. Was an experiment to get away from little bales. So far they’ve been great. You can pick up easily 3-4 slices under your arm.

Those and the 80x70 bales are the horse yard go to bale
You also get a lot more on a trailer if delivered sell per bale and you’ll be in front of any seller buy the ton

 

[Jsmith2211]

We picked up an old but excellent condition class 1100 (80x50) in the summer. Was an experiment to get away from little bales. So far they’ve been great. You can pick up easily 3-4 slices under your arm.

I’m looking at an old but good condition 800. My thought was condition is probably more important than age

 

[Jsmith2211]

Are you rounds now??
How will you/they handle them other end?
A few of my customers said about square bales,I said as long as you help me roll them in...

For your market place I wouldn’t be going 80x90 I’d be going smaller

We are round bales for a lot of it, but less that we were a few years ago. Get a contractor in to do a few hundred 80x90s. Also do small bales. Thing is not everyone wants round bales. Smalls are the best ££ per ton but transporting on the road without a packer isn’t that fun. So looking at the smaller big bales as a compromise

 

[d williams]

We are round bales for a lot of it, but less that we were a few years ago. Get a contractor in to do a few hundred 80x90s. Also do small bales. Thing is not everyone wants round bales. Smalls are the best ££ per ton but transporting on the road without a packer isn’t that fun. So looking at the smaller big bales as a compromise

I think there’s to much food in a standard round bale for their price try a belt baler and 90cms bales there’s a few quid to be made out of them

 

[Will 1594]

I think there’s to much food in a standard round bale for their price try a belt baler and 90cms bales there’s a few quid to be made out of them

3 ft wide is the anser , x4 ft ,sit nice on trailer and easily rolled through a door and not too heavy 180/200 kg , and 14 on trailer is your weight

 

[Jsmith2211]

3 ft wide is the anser , x4 ft ,sit nice on trailer and easily rolled through a door and not too heavy 180/200 kg , and 14 on trailer is your weight

I think there’s to much food in a standard round bale for their price try a belt baler and 90cms bales there’s a few quid to be made out of them

Got a belt baler. Doesnt put a massive amount in a bale. netwrap is significantly more money than string though... and slower. Plus rounds take up a lot of space in the shed and arent as easy to stack and haul on the trailers.

 

[Spencer]

Got a belt baler. Doesnt put a massive amount in a bale. netwrap is significantly more money than string though... and slower. Plus rounds take up a lot of space in the shed and arent as easy to stack and haul on the trailers.

Good to roll tho

 

[Jsmith2211]

Good to roll tho

Most of mine i'm doing collection, tractor and trailer load delivery or selling to a friend of mine (plus will maybe be doing some baling for him) who likes the squares as he carries in slabs at a time. He wont have round bales as his customers wont have them, we did try a couple of years back when he was short of hay. I like the rounds, and yes they do roll (and unroll if you are that old fashioned) well. But got to do what people want to buy

 

[Spencer]

Most of mine i'm doing collection, tractor and trailer load delivery or selling to a friend of mine (plus will maybe be doing some baling for him) who likes the squares as he carries in slabs at a time. He wont have round bales as his customers wont have them, we did try a couple of years back when he was short of hay. I like the rounds, and yes they do roll (and unroll if you are that old fashioned) well. But got to do what people want to buy

Is ok, just pointing out a good point to rounds.
We have an 80x70 baler and do a few for horse folk. Good size.
Wouldn’t fancy a D1000, unless your only doing 1 acre paddocks

 

[bobk]

Got a belt baler. Doesnt put a massive amount in a bale. netwrap is significantly more money than string though... and slower. Plus rounds take up a lot of space in the shed and arent as easy to stack and haul on the trailers.

I've got an 80x 50 baler , perfect size but it ain't quick , round baler will kill it
It's about educating your customers

 

[Stw88]

I've got an 80x 50 baler , perfect size but it ain't quick , round baler will kill it
It's about educating your customers

Seamed to be going terribly slow with mine when I used it but you never stop so don’t think it will be as far behind the round baler as you think.

 

[Jsmith2211]

I've got an 80x 50 baler , perfect size but it ain't quick , round baler will kill it
It's about educating your customers

Modern round baler probably would, ours is rather slow, no rotor etc. how many bales an hour do you reckon you get out of yours?

 

[bobk]

Modern round baler probably would, ours is rather slow, no rotor etc. how many bales an hour do you reckon you get out of yours?

70

 

[PBW]

Hi Guys I run a Hesston 4600 baler, 80 x .47 chamber, great machine, I also have another that I use for spares, I managed to get new 4 x knife arms out of germany,
My customer base love the 2 bales wraped as one balage unit and the 1.5m length hay bales which are a 5 bale equi eg 100 to 120 kg. I use a static wrapper to wrap the balage and I offer my customers a 5 to 10 bale equi eg 1m length to a 1.5 m length. eg 10 bale equi balage 2 bales wraped as one [1.5 l x .95 h x .8 w] My customers who have no machinery find the bales easy to feed out with wheel burrow, tractor tray, quad trailer etc, A big livestock improvment farm use my 10 equi balage bales on custom trailers behind a quad as its easy to chuck the flakes .8x.47 over the fence. same as with hay bales. cheers Peter

 

[Jsmith2211]

Hi Guys I run a Hesston 4600 baler, 80 x .47 chamber, great machine, I also have another that I use for spares, I managed to get new 4 x knife arms out of germany,
My customer base love the 2 bales wraped as one balage unit and the 1.5m length hay bales which are a 5 bale equi eg 100 to 120 kg. I use a static wrapper to wrap the balage and I offer my customers a 5 to 10 bale equi eg 1m length to a 1.5 m length. eg 10 bale equi balage 2 bales wraped as one [1.5 l x .95 h x .8 w] My customers who have no machinery find the bales easy to feed out with wheel burrow, tractor tray, quad trailer etc, A big livestock improvment farm use my 10 equi balage bales on custom trailers behind a quad as its easy to chuck the flakes .8x.47 over the fence. same as with hay bales. cheers Peter

Have seen a 4600 advertised, quite pricey for what it is but a very tidy machine. I think the 80x47 is probably a little small though really, great for a replacement for small bales but to run alongside it is quite an overlap. I think the D1000 size bales might still be big enough for larger stock units to still take them, whereas 80x47 is going to start verging on "too small and messing around". There is also the factor of smaller hole to push the hay out of -> slower baling.

Very interesting what you say about wrapping 2 bales together though. Do you have any photos of how you are doing that? Do you tie them together first?