Deer problems
- Thread starter Pluto
- Start date
If they are on your land they are your deer. Season closed on that species?
Try a tramline with 5 litres/ha of manganese sulphate. Just trying to think of something that makes it taste bitter that doesn't have the price tag of Grazers. Can you get any dirty water or slurry?
Try a tramline with 5 litres/ha of manganese sulphate. Just trying to think of something that makes it taste bitter that doesn't have the price tag of Grazers. Can you get any dirty water or slurry?
- Location
- North West
I’m sure I’ve seen it somewhere that nothing stops a deer like a magnum??.
More seriously though, would a gas banger not keep them on the move?
More seriously though, would a gas banger not keep them on the move?
TripleSix
Member
- Location
- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
Bird bangers?
- Location
- North West England
Section 7 of The Deer Act 1991
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/54/section/7
1)Subject to subsection (3) below, a person to whom this section applies shall not be guilty of an offence under section 2 above by reason of—
(a)the taking or killing of any deer by means of shooting, or
(b)the injuring of any deer by means of shooting in an attempt to take or kill it,
on any cultivated land, pasture or enclosed woodland.
(2)Subject to subsection (3) below, a person to whom this section applies shall not be guilty of an offence under section 4(2)(a) above by reason of the use, for the purpose of taking or killing any deer on any land, of any smooth-bore gun of not less gauge than 12 bore which is loaded with—
(a)a cartridge containing a single non-spherical projectile weighing not less than 22.68 grammes (350 grains); or
(b)a cartridge purporting to contain shot each of which is .203 inches (5.16 millimetres) in diameter (that is to say, size AAA).
(3)A person to whom this section applies shall not be entitled to rely on the defence provided by subsection (1) or subsection (2) above as respects anything done in relation to any deer on any land unless he shows that—
(a)he had reasonable grounds for believing that deer of the same species were causing, or had caused, damage to crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber or any other form of property on the land;
(b)it was likely that further damage would be so caused and any such damage was likely to be serious; and
(c)his action was necessary for the purpose of preventing any such damage.
(4)The persons to whom this section applies are—
(a)the occupier of the land on which the action is taken;
(b)any member of the occupier’s household normally resident on the occupier’s land, acting with the written authority of the occupier;
(c)any person in the ordinary service of the occupier on the occupier’s land, acting with the written authority of the occupier; and
(d)any person having the right to take or kill deer on the land on which the action is taken or any person acting with the written authority of a person having that right.
(5)The Secretary of State and the agriculture Minister acting jointly may by order, either generally or in relation to any area or any species and description of deer specified in the order,—
(a)repeal subsection (2) above or amend it by adding any firearm or ammunition or by altering the description of, or deleting, any firearm or ammunition for the time being mentioned in it;
(b)amend subsection (3) above by adding any further conditions which must be satisfied or by varying or deleting any conditions so added.
(6)Before making any order under subsection (5) above the Secretary of State and the agriculture Minister shall consult organisations that appear to them to represent persons likely to be interested in or affected by the order.
(7)In this section “agriculture Minister” means—
(a)in relation to England, the [F1Secretary of State]; and
(b)in relation to Wales, the Secretary of State.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1991/54/section/7
1)Subject to subsection (3) below, a person to whom this section applies shall not be guilty of an offence under section 2 above by reason of—
(a)the taking or killing of any deer by means of shooting, or
(b)the injuring of any deer by means of shooting in an attempt to take or kill it,
on any cultivated land, pasture or enclosed woodland.
(2)Subject to subsection (3) below, a person to whom this section applies shall not be guilty of an offence under section 4(2)(a) above by reason of the use, for the purpose of taking or killing any deer on any land, of any smooth-bore gun of not less gauge than 12 bore which is loaded with—
(a)a cartridge containing a single non-spherical projectile weighing not less than 22.68 grammes (350 grains); or
(b)a cartridge purporting to contain shot each of which is .203 inches (5.16 millimetres) in diameter (that is to say, size AAA).
(3)A person to whom this section applies shall not be entitled to rely on the defence provided by subsection (1) or subsection (2) above as respects anything done in relation to any deer on any land unless he shows that—
(a)he had reasonable grounds for believing that deer of the same species were causing, or had caused, damage to crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber or any other form of property on the land;
(b)it was likely that further damage would be so caused and any such damage was likely to be serious; and
(c)his action was necessary for the purpose of preventing any such damage.
(4)The persons to whom this section applies are—
(a)the occupier of the land on which the action is taken;
(b)any member of the occupier’s household normally resident on the occupier’s land, acting with the written authority of the occupier;
(c)any person in the ordinary service of the occupier on the occupier’s land, acting with the written authority of the occupier; and
(d)any person having the right to take or kill deer on the land on which the action is taken or any person acting with the written authority of a person having that right.
(5)The Secretary of State and the agriculture Minister acting jointly may by order, either generally or in relation to any area or any species and description of deer specified in the order,—
(a)repeal subsection (2) above or amend it by adding any firearm or ammunition or by altering the description of, or deleting, any firearm or ammunition for the time being mentioned in it;
(b)amend subsection (3) above by adding any further conditions which must be satisfied or by varying or deleting any conditions so added.
(6)Before making any order under subsection (5) above the Secretary of State and the agriculture Minister shall consult organisations that appear to them to represent persons likely to be interested in or affected by the order.
(7)In this section “agriculture Minister” means—
(a)in relation to England, the [F1Secretary of State]; and
(b)in relation to Wales, the Secretary of State.
- Location
- North West England
Unfortunately the deer (fallow) belong to my landlord.
Have had a meeting with the head keeper, and he informs me that getting a license to shoot out of season is almost impossible.
To be fair to him, he only started the job in the spring, and it’s a problem that he inherited.
Am going to try the compensation route. At the moment it’s bangers galore!
Have had a meeting with the head keeper, and he informs me that getting a license to shoot out of season is almost impossible.
To be fair to him, he only started the job in the spring, and it’s a problem that he inherited.
Am going to try the compensation route. At the moment it’s bangers galore!
- Location
- Breckland
My boy has a noisy pit bike. I make him ride around our beet field each evening. It seems to help as the they disappear as soon as he arrives.
But return when it's his bedtime ??
But return when it's his bedtime ??
Not just beet.
Deer here have taken at least 20% of the WW.
Combination of this year's grain biomass being much less than usual, due to drought, and this year's alternate larder being rather bare.
Nothing juicier than several sq m of ears of WW at 5.00am of a damp summer's morning.
We've got groups of red here, several herds of roe and fallow and the odd muntjac all to contend with.
Only consolation so far this year was to spook a red stag in the WB when pulling wild oats at sunrise and to see him going full speed arse over tip after 50m when his antlers filled up with barley awns.
Deer here have taken at least 20% of the WW.
Combination of this year's grain biomass being much less than usual, due to drought, and this year's alternate larder being rather bare.
Nothing juicier than several sq m of ears of WW at 5.00am of a damp summer's morning.
We've got groups of red here, several herds of roe and fallow and the odd muntjac all to contend with.
Only consolation so far this year was to spook a red stag in the WB when pulling wild oats at sunrise and to see him going full speed arse over tip after 50m when his antlers filled up with barley awns.
tupmaster
Member
- Location
- North East Scotland
if they take your crop surley they will be classed as vermin so no closed season?
yellow belly
Member
- Location
- south west lincolnshire
You can aply for a licence on the grounds of crop damage
claim off the land Lord
claim off the land Lord