capfits
Member
Think you have found the rabbit hole.
Tell us about the Mad Hatters tea party.
Democracy in Scotland
- Thread starter Agrivator
- Start date
Tell us about the Mad Hatters tea party.
I just can't see how anyone can reach the conclusion that the Greens would be in control at Holyrood whilst Queen Nicola is around. Yes they have a degree of influence as they provide her with a majority, but looking from here South of the border there appears to be only one show in town Queen Nicola and her loyal band. Just as our PM Boris is seemingly forgiven for every indiscretion, so it appears is Nicola in Scotland
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- Dumfries & Galloway
If the Greens are unelected, then so are 75% of the Tory's.
You do realise the founding principles of the Scottish parliament is no single party should have a majority. It is about all parties coming together and working together on common interests?
With that in mind, SNP and Greens are doing exactly what was intented of the system.
I really can not understand what you are complaining about. The rules are the same for all - and no doubt if Scotland were ever stupid enough to vote Tory they too would have a small minority party helping get their way.
As I've already said - no doubt you were very happy when LibDems threw themselves under the bus to get the Tory's and David Cameron into power?
M-J-G
Member
I'm no more content than when the DUP had an element of control in Westminster, but it's how the system is and I don't see a great deal of point in getting too bothered about things not always going my way, particularly when these things are outwith my control.
What exactly do you hope to achieve from this thread?
But the DUP were elected by the voters in NI to represent them in the UK Parliament.
Not a single Green MSP at Holyrood has been elected by any voter actually voting for them as individuals.
- Location
- Limousin
Not sure what you are getting at. Do you want Scotland to change to a very undemocratic FPP voting system, which will essentially then make Scotland a one party state? I am sure Nicola wouldn't object.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
That's fine. Get rid of the stupid list vote and give the SNP the 85% constituency seats and Supermajority the voters voted for then
This is the preferred method in EU supporting countries, remember when we used to vote for "list" mep's
M-J-G
Member
Well. its'certainly wound you up, so that's a bonus.
But it's also interesting that none but me seems to mind that the Scottish Government is now at the mercy of a group of very left-wing MSPs, none of whom was elected by voters putting a cross next to his or her name.
It may be, that if Nicola appoints one of them as a Minister in her coalition Cabinet, Patrick Harvey or another tie-less bearded veggie could be the agricultural secretary, or in charge of land reform.
But there again, almost 50% of us voted to remain in the EU, to be ruled by un-elected bureaucrats.
M-J-G
Member
Wound up, not in the slightest, it's not me getting wound up and starting threads about things that are outwith my control.Well. its'certainly wound you up, so that's a bonus.
But it's also interesting that none but me seems to mind that the Scottish Government is now at the mercy of a group of very left-wing MSPs, none of whom was elected by voters putting a cross next to his or her name.
It may be, that if Nicola appoints one of them as a Minister in her coalition Cabinet, Patrick Harvey or another tie-less bearded veggie could be the agricultural secretary, or in charge of land reform.
But there again, almost 50% of us voted to remain in the EU, to be ruled by un-elected bureaucrats.
Why do you assume it's only you who is concerned about who is running Scotland.
Is it because you're the only one to start a thread because you don't like the result of a democratic system?
People vote how they want, neither you, me or anyone can change who people voted for, that must be accepted, it's a fault of the system.
If you want to change people's minds you'll need to do more than complain on some poxy straw chewers forum.
I don't oppose leaving the EU, but the unelected officials part is a bit hypocritical, particularly when we take into account some of those who are highly influential in the workings of the UK.
That should be ''poxy straw-chewers' forum'' And I am now certain that you are not a proper farmer.
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M-J-G
Member
You sure about that?Wee tip amigo, if you're going to point out a mistake, make sure you get it correct yourself.
I'm starting to enjoy this now
I shall take that as both a compliment and an example of your inability to read people.
Edit* Your edit was too late Mr SPG, I'd already quoted you
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M-J-G
Member
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
You still have it wrong
Fancy a 3rd attempt?
I'm speechless. That is just a car crash
Especially after such a bold statement as;
Looks like you would have just lost your vote
I’d like if I may in relation to yet more of your simpleton understanding of electoral democracy, quote a few lines by Oliver Goldsmith and in so doing take a small bit of poetic licence.
“And still they gazed and still that wonder grew,
that one small head could carry all he thought he knew”.
The original poem by the great man is here. Well worth a read.
The Village Schoolmaster by Oliver Goldsmith
Comments & analysis: Beside yon straggling fence that skirts the way / With blossom'd furze unprofitably gay,
allpoetry.com
- Location
- Cheltenham
I wonder why you’ve had no replies to this? While I voted remain, your point is one which I concur with and seems to be overlooked by those that support the EU Union and it’s direction of travel. Precisely the point - we can’t actually elect the people who make the decisions. Well we can now of course and that’s another story
wtf's wrong with chewing a bit of straw??You still have it wrong
Fancy a 3rd attempt?
Makes u look authentic!
M-J-G
Member
For certain!
I always carry a spare bit or two.
- Location
- Limousin
Maybe you should worry about the UK first. That has, and is still being run/influenced by the unelected, such as Cummings, Frost, Symmonds, Goldsmith and numerous Tory donors etc. Then jump aboard the governments VIP gravy train, but only if you are a friend or relative of a government minister. And that's before we even mention the utter ignorance, incompetence and deceitfulness of these ministers. Then, lets not forget Boris filling the House of Lords with with his various cronies at payback time.