I am looking about buying a trailer forager for next year to do my own silage I roughly cut about 120 acres first cut and 70/80 second cut for my suckler cows. I have seen some John Deere trailer foragers for sale but I can't seem to find any information about them. I was wondering what the difference is between a 3760 and a 3765 was? Also has anyone had any experience of them are they any good? Or should I be looking at an another make?
Difference between John Deere 3760 and 3765 trailer foragers
- Thread starter Tom22890
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How much power cam you put on it? Have you thought about a flywheel chop? They're less fussy about the sharpness of the blades and maintain their "blow" much better.
Durt Burd
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Think the 60 was shear bolt and the 65 was slip clutch.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
200 is on the upper limit for those old trailed foragers. For that sort of output most people would go self propelled.
You could look at a Mengele SH40?
You could look at a Mengele SH40?
deere2140
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We ran them for years , strong , well built machines . They like having sharp blades ( have a handy reverse drive sharpening system built in ) and like having tight clearances between blades and shearbar , and also blade to belly pan clearance . Slip clutches on the feedrolls became standard on the 65's but was an option on the 60's , and they are better machines for it . The slip clutches are actually adjustable , if you strip them down you can alter the number of sprung elements inside ).
The standard 5ft pickup isn't terribly robust and will struggle with much over 100hp worth of grass , if you get me . The optional 7 ft pickup was also fitted to the US built 3975 ( still in production ) and also the 5000 series SP , so is much more capable of higher throughput .
The machine is probably best with 100 to 120 in front of it ( it's a child of the 1980's , when 100 hp was a big tractor ) , any more than that puts a strain on the feedroll drive trying to push the grass through the feed opening . With a JD 6900 or a Valtra T151 on front of it , lifting 3x8ft , we were lifting approx 5 to 6 acres per hour , filling 10 ton trailers in about 6 minutes .
To get a higher throughput , one option would be to put a full set of 24 blades in ( usually only 12 fitted ) and then swap the feedroll drive gears for what JD parts list as the long chop kit . This doubles the feedroll speed , and with the doubled up blades should retain the same chop length , and this should in theory give a higher crop handling ability , but I've never tried it .
With regards to parts availability , most of the parts are still available , but take advantage of the low purchase price ( one of mine cost £500 ) and buy several .
The standard 5ft pickup isn't terribly robust and will struggle with much over 100hp worth of grass , if you get me . The optional 7 ft pickup was also fitted to the US built 3975 ( still in production ) and also the 5000 series SP , so is much more capable of higher throughput .
The machine is probably best with 100 to 120 in front of it ( it's a child of the 1980's , when 100 hp was a big tractor ) , any more than that puts a strain on the feedroll drive trying to push the grass through the feed opening . With a JD 6900 or a Valtra T151 on front of it , lifting 3x8ft , we were lifting approx 5 to 6 acres per hour , filling 10 ton trailers in about 6 minutes .
To get a higher throughput , one option would be to put a full set of 24 blades in ( usually only 12 fitted ) and then swap the feedroll drive gears for what JD parts list as the long chop kit . This doubles the feedroll speed , and with the doubled up blades should retain the same chop length , and this should in theory give a higher crop handling ability , but I've never tried it .
With regards to parts availability , most of the parts are still available , but take advantage of the low purchase price ( one of mine cost £500 ) and buy several .
Both jag51 still available at the moment
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
I've got a Mengele SH40 for sale. Hasn't been used in three seasons but worked fine when put away. Obviously needs a bit of a service before putting in the field. Can't honestly see me using it again in future. The machine's fine but we are getting too old and haven't got the staff any longer.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Quite understood. I've never really "got" the fancy big self propelled silage mowers for the same reason.
Will Blackburn
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- Cheshire
We had a 3765 (1993), seriously find SH40 or a neighbour or a contractor. They will fail to work in big heavy crops. They are only good for 120 hp, mechanically reliable but they don't like heavy crops.
We found it cheaper to hire a machine than work at 3765 speed, just doesn't keep the clamp man busy enough, or trailer men when it fails to blow and blocks.
We found it cheaper to hire a machine than work at 3765 speed, just doesn't keep the clamp man busy enough, or trailer men when it fails to blow and blocks.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
a cheap, well looked after SH40 or Pottinger Mex 6 will do you fine.
michael N123
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Traded our 75 for a mex 6 mex6 better!Or Jag75
I wanted a mex 6,but the 75 came along at the right price and so far very happy with it
flywheel
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