Ewes not respecting electric fence
- Thread starter ORW 37
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Well Refreshed
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- Central Scotland
What’s the earth like? Can you attach the earth clamp to the bottom wire of an adjacent stock fence? Best earth you’ll get on a portable fencer.
- Location
- Ceredigion
just give then the lot .never used a fence ever
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
What energy output (J) is the fencer, it's not all about the voltage? A lot of solar fencers are extremely low output, which is OK for a horse fence in summer.
My smallest fencer is 1.7J, most of them are 2+. I have just bought a solar one that si 2J, but I don't anticipate the panel to be doing much more than just extending the life of the battery a bit.
Now they have learnt to walk through it, I think you're likely to struggle to get them to respect it, without a very powerful fencer on it for a bit.
Cowcalf
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- North of Scotland
couple the earth wire to the middle wire on fence ( after isolating it from the live ) as well as the usual ground then it will get a belt from touching top or bottom wire and the middle as well as feet
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I’ve had this before. In the end I moved them into a fenced paddock halved with a mains fencer powering some 3 strand. They soon got the message.
The tester reads 6kv on all wires- I think it is only 0.5 j output solar one but does give a heck of a bite - the labrador has learned its lesson!! What engergizers do you use?
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- Romney Marsh
Don't listen to Forage Trader........you will waste far too many in the wet.
I now realise why FT is not farming livestock anymore. He used too much straw by just throwing the bales in and lost too much crop by not bothering to use a fence !!
It was already broken.
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- South Norfolk
That your leccy fencing doesn't give a kick up the arse is the last lesson you want your ewes to learn! Big energiser on a tractor battery for a few days should do the trick. But be prepared to go around a couple of times a day to push back in any poly stakes that have been pulled out. Solar charger on dark winter days and long nights might not be the best set up.
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- Summer set
Your gunna need a bigger fencer
Timbo
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- Gods County
As mentioned above 2Joules or more needed really - doubt the pissy little solar powered thing gives any kick to it..
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- West Wales
We only use ESB275 and 325’s.
We used to use flexinet to teach them on but now their all on triple strand as the flexi isn’t the best now it’s 20+ years old so it’s only used in hard to get to places.
We used to use flexinet to teach them on but now their all on triple strand as the flexi isn’t the best now it’s 20+ years old so it’s only used in hard to get to places.
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- Easter ross
What spacing wires is everyone using for 3 wire. Bought some kiwitech posts but need to set the wire height, want to try and get it right first time.
- Location
- West Wales
10” or 25cm
davidroberts30
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- pembrokeshire
How high is the bottom strand of wire??
Usually its too high and the sheeps touch the wire with the wool on the back of the neck and the wool is a insulator
Usually its too high and the sheeps touch the wire with the wool on the back of the neck and the wool is a insulator
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- Montgomeryshire
Used to use Gallagher or Rutland ones in the past, but I think you pay for the name and they don't last any longer IME.
The make doesn't really matter, it's only a fairly simple pulse generator at the end of the day. I have a collection of several different makes, but the VOSS from https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/ seem very good value for money. I bought one of these https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/voss-farming-sirus-8-12v-mains-energiser.html from them last year, just so that I had one I could use for training if needed. It would be ideal for training your problem ones on high power (assuming you don't have access to a decent mains fencer somewhere), then switch it to low (2J) for normal use.
Whatever you do, you don't want to hang around. a few getting out soon teach the whole lot to do it.
Have you stood and watched to see how they are going through? If they are sticking their heads down and pushing, you could try 2 wires close together at the bottom, one earth and on live. If they are jumping it, just get the rifle and be done with it.
As other have said, isolate the offenders and train them with a fence in front of a hedge or pig netting fence with a high power unit.
When I used to have a loads of Welsh tack or Store lambs who treated electric as a minor inconvenience at worst, I used to use some 10mm white tape on the 3 strand fencing. Very visible and slowed the lambs enough to make them look and sniff... and shock. Usually OK after 24 hrs.
Or as reported by the late John Cherrington on asking his Host, a Kiwi farmer, how he managed to train the sheep to stop in the Paddock with just a single electric wire... Kiwi gestured to the rifle in his pickup and explained what happened to the Offenders!!
As we all know,there is always a Leader in a flock...
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- West Wales
Used to use Gallagher or Rutland ones in the past, but I think you pay for the name and they don't last any longer IME.
The make doesn't really matter, it's only a fairly simple pulse generator at the end of the day. I have a collection of several different makes, but the VOSS from https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/ seem very good value for money. I bought one of these https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/voss-farming-sirus-8-12v-mains-energiser.html from them last year, just so that I had one I could use for training if needed. It would be ideal for training your problem ones on high power (assuming you don't have access to a decent mains fencer somewhere), then switch it to low (2J) for normal use.
Whatever you do, you don't want to hang around. a few getting out soon teach the whole lot to do it.
Have you stood and watched to see how they are going through? If they are sticking their heads down and pushing, you could try 2 wires close together at the bottom, one earth and on live. If they are jumping it, just get the rifle and be done with it.
What’s the possibility of that killing young lambs etc? Looks ideal, does it drain batteries compared to a 2-3J fencer?
multi power
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- pembrokeshire
You need more volts