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[fermerboy]

Local bearing place usually takes 80 ish % of starting price before haggling begins

My mate works in a bearing place in Aberdeen. They stock and source near any kind of bearing made. They keep bearings that cost £30 k on the shelf for the oil guys, 3 feet across, to ones that are miniture, can hardly get a panel pin through the middle.

Run of the mill stuff like we use 6203, 6204RS etc, standard bearings that most agric machines have he reckons some of the fast moving stock could be sold at up to 95% discount and they'd still make a cut. The list price is just that a list, pie in the sky, thats good stuff, SKF FAG etc as well. In fact they have to order in cheap nasty bearings specially for the odd one trip oil job as they don't keep them in stock.
The minute you go off standard size, fast turnover ones, the price goes balistic very quickly though.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Issue is if you have any warranty are they going to play stupid with the warranty as they’re not oem parts. Scary there’s such a disparity on prices, even when I go to BML Hayley for bearings I get a 45% discount written on the bill......

Looks like it is pretty general. When I went to get the first set of replacement bearings for the turbine I was given an 80% discount. Standard RHP self aligning bearings for 50mm shaft, 4 hole.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Weld it or araldite

 

[Robt]

Weld it or araldite

gulp........
@Bobthebuilder , as a matter of interest and unrelated to parts prices. Approx how many tonnes has that machine done? be interesting to hear the value of product is has spread?

 

[Brisel]

gulp........
@Bobthebuilder , as a matter of interest and unrelated to parts prices. Approx how many tonnes has that machine done? be interesting to hear the value of product is has spread?

What's the retail price for a set of Sulky vanes?

 

[2wheels]

My mate works in a bearing place in Aberdeen. They stock and source near any kind of bearing made. They keep bearings that cost £30 k on the shelf for the oil guys, 3 feet across, to ones that are miniture, can hardly get a panel pin through the middle.

Run of the mill stuff like we use 6203, 6204RS etc, standard bearings that most agric machines have he reckons some of the fast moving stock could be sold at up to 95% discount and they'd still make a cut. The list price is just that a list, pie in the sky, thats good stuff, SKF FAG etc as well. In fact they have to order in cheap nasty bearings specially for the odd one trip oil job as they don't keep them in stock.
The minute you go off standard size, fast turnover ones, the price goes balistic very quickly though.

Scot bearing?

 

[2wheels]

Tim Smith for Amazone stuff

 

[GOODYSMATE]

Local bearing place usually takes 80 ish % of starting price before haggling begins

I reckon i go to the same small building as you as i get 80%ish of the price then a bit more discount as i put them on my buying groups account

 

[Bobthebuilder]

gulp........
@Bobthebuilder , as a matter of interest and unrelated to parts prices. Approx how many tonnes has that machine done? be interesting to hear the value of product is has spread?

Approx 6500ton according to box, not sure if these are original as it was 2yr old when we got it from an ex coop farm doing @5000ac/season, we haven’t put a set on yet

 

[fermerboy]

Scot bearing?

Yes

 

[Sharpy]

I wouldnoy like to think what a tray test would look like on them.

I know that guy and I can assure you that the vanes were spot on. Those spreaders were doing thousands of acres if not tons per year.

 

[David.]

What's the retail price for a set of Sulky vanes?

£170 a disc set, 24m, couple yrs ago.

 

[Tim G]

issue if you weld it your going to out balance the other rotor and youd end up changing the bearings aswell. sometimes penny pinching on these things is abit crazy. but the amazone discs arent cheap and theres no after market. Whats the main material your spreading? i found blends with potash wore the veins away on our kuhn pretty quick over a few seasons.

I'm not sure it would make that much difference, I seen to remember a spreader I used in the past having two different vanes on each disc. If you were worried you could repair and weigh the vane and add a bit of weld to the opposite vane to balance it.

 

[Classichay]

I'm not sure it would make that much difference, I seen to remember a spreader I used in the past having two different vanes on each disc. If you were worried you could repair and weigh the vane and add a bit of weld to the opposite vane to balance it.

You’d need to weigh them to be sure, and use stainless wire with helium gas, is what I’d probably do, or if you only have a stick set dissimilar metals Rods are stainless and you should be ok, just clean them with acetone first.

but if you over balance the rotor by a few G and then take into account the changes in load on the bearing from the fertiliser entering and exiting the blade you can cause a very subtle vibration which will slowly but surely knacker the bearing.
I’d have a look and see how far off the other one is being worn through, I’f it’s not you could have a defect in the vain and I’d be asking a question directly to Amazon, you may score a new set. don’t ask, don’t get.


Guessing the rotors on this machine are hydraulically driven?

 

[Happy]

Found exactly the same yesterday on our Kuhn. New set £150, for VXR coated £500. The spinner is getting a bit long in the tooth anyway so I just ordered a standard set.

Did the exact same last week. 2008 axis 30.1.
Charged me £135 for set of the standard ones.
i should have fitted the vxr ones first time I changed them. Lucky if I get 3 years out of the standard ones.

 

[ploughman1963]

We’ve just replaced the vanes on ours ahead of getting the spreader checked/calibrated. We knew vanes were needed as we were told last year - I still looked hard and thought they would surely do another year - BUT - when I saw the tray test results with the new vanes compared to last years with worn but ‘acceptable’ ones, I understood the reason why they need changing and why doing another year with the old ones would have cost me far more than the vanes did

 

[Rob Holmes]

So this spreader has spreader over 6500 tons over its life, lets average fert price at £250/t and that machine has spread over £1.6 mil worth of fert!
A 1% improvement in accuracy would pay for a new spreader, and people are questioning the value of new veins???
*This is assuming they are original veins

Edit: Veins are a wearing part, re-metalling a plough would cost more than £500

 

[davidroberts30]

You’d need to weigh them to be sure, and use stainless wire with helium gas, is what I’d probably do, or if you only have a stick set dissimilar metals Rods are stainless and you should be ok, just clean them with acetone first.

but if you over balance the rotor by a few G and then take into account the changes in load on the bearing from the fertiliser entering and exiting the blade you can cause a very subtle vibration which will slowly but surely knacker the bearing.
I’d have a look and see how far off the other one is being worn through, I’f it’s not you could have a defect in the vain and I’d be asking a question directly to Amazon, you may score a new set. don’t ask, don’t get.


Guessing the rotors on this machine are hydraulically driven?

stainless welds fine with argon gas

 

[Walton2]

So this spreader has spreader over 6500 tons over its life, lets average fert price at £250/t and that machine has spread over £1.6 mil worth of fert!
A 1% improvement in accuracy would pay for a new spreader, and people are questioning the value of new veins???
*This is assuming they are original veins

Edit: Veins are a wearing part, re-metalling a plough would cost more than £500

The plough remetalling costs £500......and that metal would lift and turn over 500,000 tonnes of topsoil. People are questioning the cost of new veins.

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Approx 6500ton according to box, not sure if these are original as it was 2yr old when we got it from an ex coop farm doing @5000ac/season, we haven’t put a set on yet

Sorry got the numbers mixed up, I knew I’d seen 6500 somewhere, 2013 machine so coming into its 8th season