Farming Internationally

[lots to learn123]

Hi all, considering the price of land domestically (Ireland), it seems to make sense for a young farmer to look internationally for opportunities to expand. If you could "do it all again"/did not have ties that would keep you from going overseas, where would you have looked to go?
I see France, Canada, America and Australia mentioned as options, all with positives and negatives; is South America not the elephant in the room?
How much of a premium in land prices/tax rate is worth paying for access to otherwise closed/tariffed premium markets?

Thanks for all responses and experience shared in advance.

 

[BrianV]

Hi all, considering the price of land domestically (Ireland), it seems to make sense for a young farmer to look internationally for opportunities to expand. If you could "do it all again"/did not have ties that would keep you from going overseas, where would you have looked to go?
I see France, Canada, America and Australia mentioned as options, all with positives and negatives; is South America not the elephant in the room?
How much of a premium in land prices/tax rate is worth paying for access to otherwise closed/tariffed premium markets?

Thanks for all responses and experience shared in advance.

Having been to New Zealand & had family members out there if I was starting out again that’s where I would head for, a beautiful country, lovely people & good opportunities to get started.

 

[teslacoils]

Malaysia

 

[teslacoils]

Note if any Malaysians are looking for staff......

 

[Flatlander]

Canada. But it’s not fir the faint hearted. If I was to move from here I’d go south in to Illinois. A lot warmer and longer growing season. I’ve travelled a fair bit in the states and find the infrastructure for agriculture is much better than here in Canada. Also I think they are treated better by the government when I comes to support or tax breaks.
that said I love Farming here and the ability to expand in past years was easier. Personally I think the time to venture to other corners of the world has passed.

 

[kiwi pom]

Having been to New Zealand & had family members out there if I was starting out again that’s where I would head for, a beautiful country, lovely people & good opportunities to get started.

Need plenty of money these days though.

 

[kiwi pom]

Canada. But it’s not fir the faint hearted. If I was to move from here I’d go south in to Illinois. A lot warmer and longer growing season. I’ve travelled a fair bit in the states and find the infrastructure for agriculture is much better than here in Canada. Also I think they are treated better by the government when I comes to support or tax breaks.
that said I love Farming here and the ability to expand in past years was easier. Personally I think the time to venture to other corners of the world has passed.

Never been to Canada (only seen it on YouTube lol) I like the wide open spaces but not sure I could handle the winters.
I like the US, there's so many different types of farming and climates there, I just feel like there's too many nut jobs with guns running around and I'll include the cops in that.

 

[melted welly]

Having been to New Zealand & had family members out there if I was starting out again that’s where I would head for, a beautiful country, lovely people & good opportunities to get started.

Not with jacinda in charge, gone all woke.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Love to be movin to america, also fancy germany if it wasnt the language barrier

 

[CPF]

Australia in WA in the wheat belt area .

 

[Bald Rick]

I'd go to Italy and pay my percentage to the Mafia just to lie under an olive tree wearing a straw hat and thread worn denim shorts to dream of Mediterranean young ladies and pizza

 

[uztrac]

Many moons ago Bolivia used to advertise that they had land available for agricultural investment,what the status is currently I have no idea.

 

[Flatlander]

Would be intresting to see how many farmers have actually moved countries only to return. My area here is made up of lots of different nationalities Have Dutch Irish Colombian Russian German Swiss French and even a Yorkshireman. All have come for a better life and succeeded. My Yorky neighbour and friend has seen pretty much everything a country can throw at you but he’s still here. The first 5 he was so home sick but he went back for a holiday but within 3 days he called and said he couldn’t live in the uk anymore as it had changed so much.

 

[Lowland1]

The obvious is to go travel and see where you end up. My Dad wanted to move us to France in the 1980’s and I wouldn’t have anything to do with that because it was foreign. Which was really stupid. I travelled through America and could easily have stayed. Australia similarly I liked but still felt England was the place when I got home I realised it wasn’t and carried on traveling and working ending up in Africa where through a series of lucky breaks I ended up farming on my own. We are now looking at other countries in Africa such as Tanzania or Zambia for the kids. It’s not easy but I don’t regret it.

 

[unlacedgecko]

The obvious is to go travel and see where you end up. My Dad wanted to move us to France in the 1980’s and I wouldn’t have anything to do with that because it was foreign. Which was really stupid. I travelled through America and could easily have stayed. Australia similarly I liked but still felt England was the place when I got home I realised it wasn’t and carried on traveling and working ending up in Africa where through a series of lucky breaks I ended up farming on my own. We are now looking at other countries in Africa such as Tanzania or Zambia for the kids. It’s not easy but I don’t regret it.

I hear great things about beef farming in Zambia.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I hear great things about beef farming in Zambia.

Someone I was in college with, not a friend more an acquaintance went out to Zambia and married the sister of another classmate, she was pregnant and returned to the UK to give birth, their farm was attacked by bandits and he was shot dead. Absolutely terrible, as he was such a great guy and so sad.

 

[Lowland1]

Someone I was in college with, not a friend more an acquaintance went out to Zambia and married the sister of another classmate, she was pregnant and returned to the UK to give birth, their farm was attacked by bandits and he was shot dead. Absolutely terrible, as he was such a great guy and so sad.

That is a bit of a problem. I reckon that I know of at least a dozen people I know who have been murdered. It’s not for the faint hearted.

 

[bobk]

That is a bit of a problem. I reckon that I know of at least a dozen people I know who have been murdered.

My cousin went to SA flying helicopters , he came back in a bag aged 39

 

[Turnip]

Dad got an opportunity to run a beef herd in Brazil in the 70s, didn’t take it but I think its one of those regrets. Then again if he did I probably wouldn’t have existed.

 

[oil barron]

285 h close to Montevideo | Farmland Uruguay

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Uruguay looks nice.